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Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by Mertax »

zengid wrote: post #4

Tangent but I'm holding out from learning Swift until I see how the "Cross platform UI" wars shake out. We've got at least Kotlin, Dart, and JavaScript all battling it out (via Kotlin Multiplatform, Flutter, React Native) to be the king of UI languages across all platforms. I really like Swift though (from the little I've learned), so it's too bad it doesn't really have a cross platform UI story yet. (I could learn a…

Why not include C#/MAUI on this list to make it 5?

Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by afavour »

zengid wrote: post #4

Tangent but I'm holding out from learning Swift until I see how the "Cross platform UI" wars shake out. We've got at least Kotlin, Dart, and JavaScript all battling it out (via Kotlin Multiplatform, Flutter, React Native) to be the king of UI languages across all platforms. I really like Swift though (from the little I've learned), so it's too bad it doesn't really have a cross platform UI story yet. (I could learn a…

I’ve been dabbling in this space for a long time and I’ve become convinced there will be no good cross-platform mobile UI story. The UIs are too different for there to be a one size fits all solution.

(as an aside I really like Swift too and have been enjoying noodling around with it as a server language. Probably rarely a wise choice given that it isn’t their focus but there is some attention given: https://swift.org/server/)

Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by rapsey »

MobileVet wrote: post #6
zengid wrote: post #4

Tangent but I'm holding out from learning Swift until I see how the "Cross platform UI" wars shake out. We've got at least Kotlin, Dart, and JavaScript all battling it out (via Kotlin Multiplatform, Flutter, React Native) to be the king of UI languages across all platforms. I really like Swift though (from the little I've learned), so it's too bad it doesn't really have a cross platform UI story yet. (I could learn a…

I've worked in mobile since 2004 (not a typo, '04). The 'one platform to rule them all' has been just around the corner the entire time. As was already said, don't hold your breath. All of that said, if you are time constrained and really want to look at a single thing, I would go with Flutter. It impressed me when I cranked out a side project with it a year or so ago. Hopefully they continue to put effort towards it…

From our experience Flutter apps are easy to start with but quite hard to maintain. The core system keeps changing so much you are constantly having to fix things and dealing with broken dependencies. Would never use it for anything important.

Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by erokar »

It's a good course, I went through it and soon after had an app published in the App store. (I assume it's still not updated with the improvements that came to SwiftUI with iOS 17, but not 100% about that.)

Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by lockhouse »

MobileVet wrote: post #6
zengid wrote: post #4

Tangent but I'm holding out from learning Swift until I see how the "Cross platform UI" wars shake out. We've got at least Kotlin, Dart, and JavaScript all battling it out (via Kotlin Multiplatform, Flutter, React Native) to be the king of UI languages across all platforms. I really like Swift though (from the little I've learned), so it's too bad it doesn't really have a cross platform UI story yet. (I could learn a…

I've worked in mobile since 2004 (not a typo, '04). The 'one platform to rule them all' has been just around the corner the entire time. As was already said, don't hold your breath. All of that said, if you are time constrained and really want to look at a single thing, I would go with Flutter. It impressed me when I cranked out a side project with it a year or so ago. Hopefully they continue to put effort towards it…

The biggest problem with Flutter is Dart. Not the language specifically (it’s a nice enough flavor of C-family language), but the ecosystem. Even Swift is better in this regard. Flutter ported to TypeScript and sufficiently distanced from Google would actually be very compelling.

Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by lockhouse »

jshier wrote: post #10
runjake wrote: post #2

Near the very top of the page, Paul says that there is a newer version[1] and that if you're not sure, you should go with the newer version instead of this. I think with the target audience for this, you should just go immediately to the newer version[1]. 1. https://www.hackingwithswift.com/100/swiftui

Yeah, 100 Days of Swift is actually an introduction to UIKit, not the Swift language (aside from the first 10 days or so), so anyone starting fresh should do the SwiftUI version. I do wish Paul (or anyone) would write a good intro to Swift the language without any of Apple's frameworks.

Apple has a really good first party book about the Swift language.

https://www.swift.org/documentation/

Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by ericmay »

erokar wrote: post #14

It's a good course, I went through it and soon after had an app published in the App store. (I assume it's still not updated with the improvements that came to SwiftUI with iOS 17, but not 100% about that.)

I agree. I went through it as well though I didn’t publish any apps to the App Store (lack of ideas :( ) but I personally adore Swift and SwiftUI and Hackingwithswift is such a great resource!

Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by [deleted] »

lockhouse wrote: post #15
MobileVet wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've worked in mobile since 2004 (not a typo, '04). The 'one platform to rule them all' has been just around the corner the entire time. As was already said, don't hold your breath. All of that said, if you are time constrained and really want to look at a single thing, I would go with Flutter. It impressed me when I cranked out a side project with it a year or so ago. Hopefully they continue to put effort towards it…

The biggest problem with Flutter is Dart. Not the language specifically (it’s a nice enough flavor of C-family language), but the ecosystem. Even Swift is better in this regard. Flutter ported to TypeScript and sufficiently distanced from Google would actually be very compelling.

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Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by danielvaughn »

zengid wrote: post #4

Tangent but I'm holding out from learning Swift until I see how the "Cross platform UI" wars shake out. We've got at least Kotlin, Dart, and JavaScript all battling it out (via Kotlin Multiplatform, Flutter, React Native) to be the king of UI languages across all platforms. I really like Swift though (from the little I've learned), so it's too bad it doesn't really have a cross platform UI story yet. (I could learn a…

I really like Flutter's approach, I just wish they weren't so wedded to (a) Dart and (b) Material Design.

Re: 100 Days of SwiftUI

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Post by imachine1980_ »

zengid wrote: post #4

Tangent but I'm holding out from learning Swift until I see how the "Cross platform UI" wars shake out. We've got at least Kotlin, Dart, and JavaScript all battling it out (via Kotlin Multiplatform, Flutter, React Native) to be the king of UI languages across all platforms. I really like Swift though (from the little I've learned), so it's too bad it doesn't really have a cross platform UI story yet. (I could learn a…

for what understand (im not a mobile developer) the best of all of this is react native, works well most time the ux of expo is great and you can "port it to web" like twitter, all the people who use xamarin cry, all the comments who hear about kotlin multi platform is the ecosystem isn't there, and flutter is lots harder when thing make more complicate and google is unreliable they already kind kill flutter desktop or at leas the cut most funding, i feel react native is the only really companies beat real money in it, you have multiple app in your phone using it discord, instagram,pinterest, microsoft teams, they aren’t perfect but they aren't bad, also the comunity is huge, also i hear lots of bad things about swift so there too, the lack of docs and that.
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