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Psychedelic scientist sends brains back to childhood

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Lone and meandering article refusing to get to the point promised in the headline.

This publication by the same scientists is probably more interesting: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06204-3 " Here we demonstrate in mice that the ability to reopen the social reward learning critical period is a shared property across psychedelic drugs. "

Thank you for that! I was going to ask if a scientific abstract is available.

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There is so much psychedelic research happening right now. But when will it reach patients outside of trials?

Most of the psychedelic research I've seen boils down to "take psychedelics and do stuff to get a result, here's why you get the result". You can absolutely take psychedelics and do stuff yourself.

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post #13

There is so much psychedelic research happening right now. But when will it reach patients outside of trials?

Most of the psychedelic research I've seen boils down to "take psychedelics and do stuff to get a result, here's why you get the result". You can absolutely take psychedelics and do stuff yourself.

The American Medical Association says 'no no this is so unsafe, you need a Physician who completed US residency, doesnt matter if they are a lifelong expert in the craft from Europe, you pay our cartel or else. Ignore our blood letting, opioid, and ivermectin dark pasts.'

I dream of a science based medical system in the future.

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post #13

There is so much psychedelic research happening right now. But when will it reach patients outside of trials?

Most of the psychedelic research I've seen boils down to "take psychedelics and do stuff to get a result, here's why you get the result". You can absolutely take psychedelics and do stuff yourself.

But what stuff to do?

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Lone and meandering article refusing to get to the point promised in the headline.

Yeah, just skimmed it and it comes down to: Psychadelics seem to have the ability to leave the user (after the actual 'trip' has worn off) in a state of heightened receptiveness for a long duration (length is different dependent on the drug, but counts weeks in some cases). This state is called a 'critical period' and is usually experienced in childhood. This state might allow for easier digestion of new material, fo…

I wonder if that would be a way for adults to acquire perfect pitch?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the psychedelic research I've seen boils down to "take psychedelics and do stuff to get a result, here's why you get the result". You can absolutely take psychedelics and do stuff yourself.

But what stuff to do?

Seems to be CBT therapy. I’m not sure if I would recommend DYI if only because it’s very hard to stick to a lesson (or any other) plan when you’re on shrooms. Just practically - it’s very hard to read for example

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I use LSD for similar reasons. I actually ordered a lifetime supply of acid and got into big trouble from that. Really good stuff, makes me joyous.

How do you keep a lifetime supply of LSD? Isn't it an unstable molecule with a limited shelf life?

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DISCLAIMER: all advice given here is given under the assumption that you did your research, and that you have good reasons why you're interested in psychedelics as a tool. They're a powerful tool, and powerful tools cut both ways. Turning into a new age woo head is a real risk, I've seen it happen to the staunchest of sceptics, no one is immune. Do your research, people, test your drugs, and be careful.

I think this research sort of puts the kibosh on microdosing as a paradigm, which has been my intuition all along. If you really want the potential from psychedelics, microdosing is sort of the wrong approach I always thought.

What you want to do instead is take them maybe once a year at most, though just one trip in a lifetime can be sufficient depending on your situation, then spend the following period of plasticity putting a lot of effort into changing your life the way you want to, establish habits, pick up new techniques, whatever it is you want to accomplish. You will learn faster, be more able to establish habits. And that learning is forever. You can reap the benefits for the rest of your life, completely sober.

I have done extensive self experimentation with microdosing of various psychedelics and the results were fairly clear to me. I felt smarter, and overall pretty great. I felt like I was making all these brilliant connections. But whenever there was an objective source of truth available, it became clear this was all an illusion, I was struggling to make connections that would otherwise be obvious to me, and that made it feel more significant than it was.

Chess, for instance, was one such source of truth. Played a couple long games against evenly matched opponent(rated and everything). Made a complete ass of myself. Played easily 3-400 elo points below my usual level. And all the while thinking I was playing brilliantly and calculating deep lines, I was really just imagining lines that never worked. My working memory was terrible. Time management completely off.

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