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Re: By 2050, nobody will work and everyone will believe they're scamming others

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Post by mikestew »

throw1234651234 wrote: post #7
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You only believe this until you've had/needed a great manager.

Had a couple, overwhelming majority is worthless. I have to cover their work all the time. It's literally "hey can you put together a plan" and then "can you analyze this plan..". Combined with an utter refusal to solve any real problems because that could lead to conflict and make them look bad.

I realize the impossibility of it happening, but I would love for a former manager to chime in one of these "management is worthless" posts and give us the low-down on the quality of throw1234's work. As the saying goes, there's three sides to every story...

Re: By 2050, nobody will work and everyone will believe they're scamming others

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Post by throw1234651234 »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #9
throw1234651234 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had a couple, overwhelming majority is worthless. I have to cover their work all the time. It's literally "hey can you put together a plan" and then "can you analyze this plan..". Combined with an utter refusal to solve any real problems because that could lead to conflict and make them look bad.

That’s called delegating. It’s considered good practice since it give manager reports exposure and involvement outside the team. At the end of the day, a manager is responsible for the entire team.

Wrong. It's called not doing anything. Delegation involves understanding the work and thoughtfully passing it out and then aggregating the results. Doing so without any consideration makes the process less efficient.

Re: By 2050, nobody will work and everyone will believe they're scamming others

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Post by expertentipp »

idiomaticrust wrote: post #2

And it's possible that "more resourceful" will try to "work" this way in a few full-time jobs at once.

This already happens. Well connected sit in multiple boards, while holding positions in local public administrations, "charities", and sometimes other higher up political positions.

Re: By 2050, nobody will work and everyone will believe they're scamming others

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Post by throw1234651234 »

mikestew wrote: post #11
throw1234651234 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had a couple, overwhelming majority is worthless. I have to cover their work all the time. It's literally "hey can you put together a plan" and then "can you analyze this plan..". Combined with an utter refusal to solve any real problems because that could lead to conflict and make them look bad.

I realize the impossibility of it happening, but I would love for a former manager to chime in one of these "management is worthless" posts and give us the low-down on the quality of throw1234 's work. As the saying goes, there's three sides to every story...

They wouldn't know, because they don't do anything, engage, or care about the product.. When they appear or leave, nothing changes on the team, unless they want to mimic action and over-correct and create issues with other teams or management.

P.S. I understand what you are doing here, but it's funny because you set it up the conversation for this literally true reply inadvertently instead.

P.S.S. emphasis on "care" - there is a lot of business layers that go through the motions and it just backfires because there is no understanding or intent in it. A bit harder to be that level of present but mentally absent as a dev.

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