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The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by EA-3167 »

seydor wrote: post #5

Reddit can fix this by simply promoting alternative subreddits to users. There are many. Competition will fix things

The thing about alt subs is that you quickly figure out why they're alternatives and not mainstream, and it rarely has anything to do with promotion. I'd add that the very act of promotion changes a small sub into a giant, unwieldy one very quickly.

e.g. Look at anime_titties, the ill-named main alternative to News and Worldnews, and tell me if you can see a problem with that being promoted. I sure can.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by andrewmunsell »

everfree wrote: post #6
sledgehammers wrote: post #4

Let's hope we don't repeat the same greedy walled datagarden monopoly and privatization/theft of information -problems with the next generation of social media. Does this shit culture ever change?

We have federation now, which should hopefully kill the datagarden model once and for all.

There's serious usability & scalability issues with existing federation right now, but these traditional social platforms killing 3P clients is a huge boon for federated ecosystems. Just look at Tweetbot-- which used to be considered one of the best UX for Twitter-- and how it's transformed into Ivory.

I'm hoping that a 3P developer brings some of their UX skills to Lemmy or Kbin, which would be really beneficial for bringing new users into the ActivityPub world

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by king_magic »

malfist wrote: post #10
king_magic wrote: post #8

I barely noticed the blackout. And pretty much every subreddit I use is back up and running. Blackout had next to zero impact in the short term, and I doubt it will have any lasting impact.

Man says "I ate lunch, why are people starving?"

More like “man says I ate lunch, some people didn’t eat lunch for a few days, but now most people are back to eating lunch”.

This was Occupy Wall Street all over again. A disorganized mess of a protest with no chance at making a difference.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by empyrrhicist »

malfist wrote: post #9
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #3

> What happens next. Its going to slightly accelerate the migration of some communities to Discord... Which is awful, with how siloed and noisy Discord is. I hope I am wrong, and that a good alternative gains traction.

I'm afraid you might be right. Most of the reddit clones or alternatives are cesspits of right wing hate, I guess that's because historically the only people fleeing reddit have been those that are too toxic for reddit to allow. I'm hopeful the atmosphere changes, but I believe discord or hive might be the best positioned to be the refuge. Discord is awful for anything not transient. Hive has the whole web3 nonsense…

I'm not super familiar with how the fediverse works, but I was able to join a Lemmy instance that doesn't seem to fit that bill.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by mindracer »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #3

> What happens next. Its going to slightly accelerate the migration of some communities to Discord... Which is awful, with how siloed and noisy Discord is. I hope I am wrong, and that a good alternative gains traction.

For me Discord is not a replacement, I find difficult to follow unless the channel is almost deserted then what’s the point

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by carldaddy »

king_magic wrote: post #8

I barely noticed the blackout. And pretty much every subreddit I use is back up and running. Blackout had next to zero impact in the short term, and I doubt it will have any lasting impact.

My Reddit newsfeed is currently just r/casio, so I've been looking at lots of watches.

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Post by VWWHFSfQ »

This is reminding me of when all the Vine power creators banded together and tried to make demands or they would "stop creating" and all it resulted in was Twitter deleting them and their entire website.

Don't be surprised if Reddit starts taking some pretty drastic action here on the grounds that they're violating one of the site's oldest rules which is "don't break Reddit".

Not saying it's good or bad, but just that this is almost definitely not going to go the way these people think it will.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by bhouston »

Countdown to when Reddit leadership does some drastic moves like (1) forcibly making some of the most popular private subs public again, (2) removing the mods who want to keep things private. This would effective take these communities under company control.

This will create even more uproar as well though, but I think it is inevitable.

Given the mess they have put themselves in, and their unwillingness to budge on the API pricing issue, they are unlikely to win back support from the moderates themselves in the immediate future.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by ParetoOptimal »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #3

> What happens next. Its going to slightly accelerate the migration of some communities to Discord... Which is awful, with how siloed and noisy Discord is. I hope I am wrong, and that a good alternative gains traction.

> Its going to slightly accelerate the migration of some communities to Discord

I wish they'd at least try Discourse first.

Discord is where knowledge goes to die.

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