MacOS X 10.1 (2001) • Hacker News Board

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by goosedragons » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:48 AM UTC

neilalexander wrote: post #5

jeroenhd wrote: post #4

Having never actually interacted with a mac from that era, are the grey and white stripes in the toolbar screenshots actually visible on the screen or are they an artifact of old screenshots on modern displays?

They are visible. It was a design element throughout the UI at the time.

Not just the UI. Apple products in general. The G3 iMac, Apple Cinema Display, Power Mac G4 all had pinstriping elements.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by gmac » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:50 AM UTC

neilalexander wrote: post #5

jeroenhd wrote: post #4

Having never actually interacted with a mac from that era, are the grey and white stripes in the toolbar screenshots actually visible on the screen or are they an artifact of old screenshots on modern displays?

They are visible. It was a design element throughout the UI at the time.

They matched the iMac case's stripes. See: https://www.theregister.com/2010/11/29/bondi_blue_imac/

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by rainbowzootsuit » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:53 AM UTC

jeroenhd wrote: post #4

Having never actually interacted with a mac from that era, are the grey and white stripes in the toolbar screenshots actually visible on the screen or are they an artifact of old screenshots on modern displays?

The striations were visible and the window panes that were unselected became translucent. A lot of themes of translucent glass/acrylic with a far-side texture.

The macs of the era had a matching theme to their design. Zoom into the front face of the Power Mac G4 "graphite" tower here:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Apple_G4...

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by gjvc » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:54 AM UTC

LeanderK wrote: post #2

Wow, unbelievable that it was designed in 2001! It still looks fresh and modern, although maybe a bit too playful so that it appears a bit childish? But only barely. It appears to have all the basic functionality expected from a modern operating system, I instantly feel right at home although I've never used it. I find the review terrible though, one of the major changes was the user interface, revolutionary I would…

It had real character, and the first time I used it, I came away from the iMac (with its soap-on-a-rope mouse) beaming with excitement.

OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard was the peak for me.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by rainbowzootsuit » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:56 AM UTC

darkstar_16 wrote: post #7

jeroenhd wrote: post #4

Having never actually interacted with a mac from that era, are the grey and white stripes in the toolbar screenshots actually visible on the screen or are they an artifact of old screenshots on modern displays?

IIRC they were part of the "theme".

"Theme" implies that there might be more than one correct answer. This is false

/s

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by haunter » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:57 AM UTC

Here is the John Siracusa review from 2001 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2001/10/macosx-10-1/

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by simongray » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:59 AM UTC

> Also folders can be browsed as a series of menus when placed in the dock. http://toastytech.com/guis/osxhddoc.jpg

That is more useful than the icon view it has now.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by davidy123 » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 11:02 AM UTC

They glossed over the NeXT roots which is telling, the ideas were only half-heartedly baked into the OS. It should be strictly enforced that everything on-screen has a relationship to everything else. But that would have been hard work, and they realized eye candy was an easier route when you can just announce something else every few years. This is why desktop evironments really haven't changed since the first commercial releases and Apple is just another PC vendor. Too bad because imagine if the relationship based operating environment was well developed for their spatial headset.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by kzrdude » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 11:06 AM UTC

jeroenhd wrote: post #4

Having never actually interacted with a mac from that era, are the grey and white stripes in the toolbar screenshots actually visible on the screen or are they an artifact of old screenshots on modern displays?

They were toned down later release by release.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by cprecioso » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 11:08 AM UTC

simongray wrote: post #17

> Also folders can be browsed as a series of menus when placed in the dock. http://toastytech.com/guis/osxhddoc.jpg That is more useful than the icon view it has now.

You can still get it like that, just right click on any folder that is pinned to the right side of the Dock, you’ll get 4 different display options.