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2023 UFO Claims by David Grusch

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Re: 2023 UFO Claims by David Grusch

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Post by rbanffy »

graderjs wrote: post #10
rbanffy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Physics is not anthropocentric. The mass of an electron or the speed of light do not depend on the species measuring it. While it is possible that life might exist in more than 3 dimensions and be able to protrude into our spacetime (at least, there isn’t anything prohibiting it), I can only imagine such intrusions would be much weirder than the average UAP. Furthermore, we are venturing so far into speculative terri…

No, but the idea of a totality of physics is: that there's nothing outside it that we don't understand. That's very anthropocentric. And heard in the dismissals people give of possibilities or observations that "violate a law of physics". There are some pretty weird stuff out there outside the average UAP cannon — of metallic orbs, cigars and clamshells — that may qualify as your intrusions; good word! Science lives…

> that there's nothing outside it that we don't understand.

That we don't understand and that we never observed. This is why I mentioned we wandering into speculation territory - I really can't prove there is no invisible pink unicorn sitting in my living room right now. All I can say is that I am not observing it.

Re: 2023 UFO Claims by David Grusch

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Post by graderjs »

rbanffy wrote: post #11
graderjs wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but the idea of a totality of physics is: that there's nothing outside it that we don't understand. That's very anthropocentric. And heard in the dismissals people give of possibilities or observations that "violate a law of physics". There are some pretty weird stuff out there outside the average UAP cannon — of metallic orbs, cigars and clamshells — that may qualify as your intrusions; good word! Science lives…

> that there's nothing outside it that we don't understand. That we don't understand and that we never observed. This is why I mentioned we wandering into speculation territory - I really can't prove there is no invisible pink unicorn sitting in my living room right now. All I can say is that I am not observing it.

How can you think about something if you've never seen it and it doesn't make sense based on your worldview? Well there's definitely ways that you can view it from a more open viewpoint! Ha ha ha! :) And lots to view: plenty of things we've observed and don't understand! Ha ha ha! :)

Re: 2023 UFO Claims by David Grusch

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Post by rbanffy »

graderjs wrote: post #12
rbanffy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that there's nothing outside it that we don't understand. That we don't understand and that we never observed. This is why I mentioned we wandering into speculation territory - I really can't prove there is no invisible pink unicorn sitting in my living room right now. All I can say is that I am not observing it.

How can you think about something if you've never seen it and it doesn't make sense based on your worldview? Well there's definitely ways that you can view it from a more open viewpoint! Ha ha ha! :) And lots to view: plenty of things we've observed and don't understand! Ha ha ha! :)

> if you've never seen it and it doesn't make sense based on your worldview?

You'll see something that doesn't make sense. Then you'll examine it and start formulating plausible explanations for it, and then you may start testing those against what you know and see if they can predict what is observed in other circumstances you haven't seen before.

The important part is that the explanation needs to be testable. If we just say "something outside our comprehension", it's not usable, because you can't really test that.

Re: 2023 UFO Claims by David Grusch

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Post by nostradamuspots »

Reports are that roswell ufo were shot down with scalar wewpoms in a thunderstorm, then reverse engineered, part of that engineering involved development of electropulse weapons—suitsble for use agsinst et craft. But currently, 95 % of ufos are our own vehicles, reverse engineered, making use of anti gravity and alternate energy sources, from recovered crafts. they are only ufos to the extent that they are secret—not part of official govmt operation, but part of an extra-governments black ops coalition, funded vy drugs and sex traficking, working with aerospace companies. Thus, when govmt and navy cant identify ufo crafts, they are telling the truth. Tney have t been read into this extra-governmentsl and illegal program. This is what greer snd gruwch are referring to

Re: 2023 UFO Claims by David Grusch

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Post by paymycodes »

rbanffy wrote: post #13
graderjs wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you think about something if you've never seen it and it doesn't make sense based on your worldview? Well there's definitely ways that you can view it from a more open viewpoint! Ha ha ha! :) And lots to view: plenty of things we've observed and don't understand! Ha ha ha! :)

> if you've never seen it and it doesn't make sense based on your worldview? You'll see something that doesn't make sense. Then you'll examine it and start formulating plausible explanations for it, and then you may start testing those against what you know and see if they can predict what is observed in other circumstances you haven't seen before. The important part is that the explanation needs to be testable. If w…

Hey, ha ha! I retired my graderjs account so I'll reply you with this one: yeah, definitely it's got to be testable! But you got to be open to it, you know?

Re: 2023 UFO Claims by David Grusch

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Post by keepamovin »

nostradamuspots wrote: post #14

Reports are that roswell ufo were shot down with scalar wewpoms in a thunderstorm, then reverse engineered, part of that engineering involved development of electropulse weapons—suitsble for use agsinst et craft. But currently, 95 % of ufos are our own vehicles, reverse engineered, making use of anti gravity and alternate energy sources, from recovered crafts. they are only ufos to the extent that they are secret—not…

I like how some of the keys on your keyboard don't work, ha ha! :)

Re: 2023 UFO Claims by David Grusch

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Post by nostradamuspots »

keepamovin wrote: post #16
nostradamuspots wrote: post #14

Reports are that roswell ufo were shot down with scalar wewpoms in a thunderstorm, then reverse engineered, part of that engineering involved development of electropulse weapons—suitsble for use agsinst et craft. But currently, 95 % of ufos are our own vehicles, reverse engineered, making use of anti gravity and alternate energy sources, from recovered crafts. they are only ufos to the extent that they are secret—not…

I like how some of the keys on your keyboard don't work, ha ha! :)

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