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Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by GreedClarifies »

catchnear4321 wrote: post #6
retskrad wrote: post #3

I mean, what else is he going to say to his own employees?

admit the competition may have done something interesting? point out there are things to learn from this? suggest that it would take the company’s best efforts, but that it could do better? you don’t have to shit on the other team to say your team can be the best. this was an attempt to suggest apple is somehow less personable than zuck.

Not after burning 40B USD. He had no choice but to present a strong facade.

The Apple device looks impressive and the use cases presented seem plausible. It is expensive no doubt, but if they can convince the jet set crowd to wear it then it will catch on.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by anonzzzies »

Keep bickering ya’ll ; it’s all better for us people who want to get work done. Apple made it more serious and even shows they actually support some of the Vision of Zuck. Let all big corps come in and compete for whatever their vision is.

I just want holodeck hardware and software with weeklong battery life. This is getting is closer.

One of the things that the Apple announcement will do; because it supports all iOS games and apps, meta (and other android eco system vendors) cannot not offer that. Things are going well. More competition please!

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by abc_lisper »

anonzzzies wrote: post #14

Keep bickering ya’ll ; it’s all better for us people who want to get work done. Apple made it more serious and even shows they actually support some of the Vision of Zuck. Let all big corps come in and compete for whatever their vision is. I just want holodeck hardware and software with weeklong battery life. This is getting is closer. One of the things that the Apple announcement will do; because it supports all iOS…

Yeah, In Apple's vision, FB/Social is still just an app. For FB, social is the world. Like a matrix transposed. Still Apple can do all FB wants to do.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by Clubber »

retskrad wrote: post #3

I mean, what else is he going to say to his own employees?

"Five hundred dollars? Fully subsidized? With a plan? I said that is the most expensive phone in the world," Ballmer reportedly said of the first iPhone.

"And it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard. Which makes it not a very good email machine."

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by impulser_ »

mortify wrote: post #8
alanwreath wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But yeah, all that doesn’t make the price still sting/stink and “ costs seven times more “ Is a fair criticism

This is a high end Macbook Pro with a matching price tag and additional features. For a device that is aimed at developers and early adopters, it makes sense. In a year I expect to see the Apple Vision Air for less than half the price while the OS evolves.

I highly doubt it, maybe in a few years when cost of the components needed to build a Vision headset decrease. There is a lot of expensive tech in the Vision Pro. You have two processors, 4K eye pieces, expensive sensors, expensive cameras, expensive LIDAR. How are you suppose to build a similar product for half the price? You would have to gut a lot of features and you would end up with a completely different product.

This is why you can't really compare Quest and Vision because they are meant for completely different markets. Meta could build something similar but they don't want to sell a 3500$ headset. Meta rather build a cheaper product where more people can use it. Hence why they don't package their headset will expensive components.

The Quest 3 will outsell Vision Pro by 10x because of this.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

Clubber wrote: post #16
retskrad wrote: post #3

I mean, what else is he going to say to his own employees?

"Five hundred dollars? Fully subsidized? With a plan? I said that is the most expensive phone in the world," Ballmer reportedly said of the first iPhone. "And it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard. Which makes it not a very good email machine."

That's just cherry picking. Lots of people said the Apple Newton would likely be a flop and it was indeed a flop.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by Clubber »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #18
Clubber wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Five hundred dollars? Fully subsidized? With a plan? I said that is the most expensive phone in the world," Ballmer reportedly said of the first iPhone. "And it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard. Which makes it not a very good email machine."

That's just cherry picking. Lots of people said the Apple Newton would likely be a flop and it was indeed a flop.

Are you arguing that Apple's headset will be a flop, or just being contradictory?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by fsociety »

symic wrote: post #7

Just having a higher resolution alone has made Apple Vision worth talking about. By all accounts I’ve read it’s very impressive. The interface is much better on the Vision than with the Quest. I had a Quest but I stopped using it because my eyes no longer can stand to see non retina screens. Pixelization was fine 15 years ago but anymore. Wearing glasses in the Quest was a pain. My glasses fogged up too often. Implem…

I disagree that higher resolution alone makes it worth talking about. Meta can churn out high quality screens as well as Apple, for a price. The more compelling angle is how they have nailed the interface with eye and hand tracking and if this works as well in real-world environments as it did in their demo setup.

Apple has a tech advantage lately with their software and hardware stack. But historically their products have done well because of product features not because of tech advantages. There is a non-zero chance you get an almost $4K device as hamstrung as an iPad.

So the question still remains, what are they going to do with it? It has much potential. But in some ironic twist of fate it is Meta taking the product first approach here. And Apple’s closed ecosystem (not to mention high price) puts them at a huge disadvantage to target the social/gaming angle of “spatial computing”.

It’s not over yet, and in general this is exciting because competition will start to ramp up.

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