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> Today's developers didn't learn binary before learning Python, why should you learn how to code without the most modern tools? This phrasing makes me wary. There's a difference between being self-taught, and not even bothering to teach yourself the absolute fundamentals of computing, like binary...

Learning binary and knowing what binary is are two separate things. I don't think you need to learn binary to learn to code. Been doing this for 25 years working at some big name companies, I don't know binary other than 1 is on, 0 is off.

I'm starting to feel like this whole notion that newbies can't come in and learn say React or modern JavaScript without having to go all the way back to that day in 1995 when they were hashing out the std lib for JavaScript and learn every thing about it before that "Hello World!" in React starts is becoming a gatekeeping method.

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> Today's developers didn't learn binary before learning Python, why should you learn how to code without the most modern tools? This phrasing makes me wary. There's a difference between being self-taught, and not even bothering to teach yourself the absolute fundamentals of computing, like binary...

I could see there being a future course about binary on codeamigo actually. I'm not saying people shouldn't learn the fundamentals of computing, rather, it's not knowledge that's a requirement to have before building most modern applications.

Before it was "learn C before learning Python" but some people didn't love that either...I guess my point is, we've been moving to higher and higher abstractions ever since computer programming was invented, the next abstraction is probably going to be talking to an AI to write some code that you need to vet, the above is just marketing speak for that.

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Ah yes, I can tell its a good way to learn how to be a developer by teaching you about how to write in an authoritative "intuition as fact" tone even before the course started.

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Can someone turn the lights on? I'm light theme everything, I want that thang to sear my retinas when I load the page. About Codecademy: Has it changed there a lot recently? I had problems getting them to understand that I was not interested in the position a few years ago.

>About Codecademy: Has it changed there a lot recently?

Well, they did get acquired roughly year and a half or so ago (i think it was late 2021), so things might have changed from a cultural perspective within Codecademy or the parent company.

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> Today's developers didn't learn binary before learning Python, why should you learn how to code without the most modern tools? This phrasing makes me wary. There's a difference between being self-taught, and not even bothering to teach yourself the absolute fundamentals of computing, like binary...

Learning binary and knowing what binary is are two separate things. I don't think you need to learn binary to learn to code. Been doing this for 25 years working at some big name companies, I don't know binary other than 1 is on, 0 is off. I'm starting to feel like this whole notion that newbies can't come in and learn say React or modern JavaScript without having to go all the way back to that day in 1995 when they…

> I don't know binary other than 1 is on, 2 is off.

Either an epic troll or a great illustration :-D

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> Today's developers didn't learn binary before learning Python, why should you learn how to code without the most modern tools? This phrasing makes me wary. There's a difference between being self-taught, and not even bothering to teach yourself the absolute fundamentals of computing, like binary...

In my case, I started with the FET junction (electronics).

My first program was Machine Code, designed on a pad of lined paper, and punched directly into RAM, via a hex keypad.

These days, I write Swift. It's nice to not need to deal with the way Machine Code works, but I'm glad I learned it.

That said, everything we learn takes up NVR, so there's a strong argument to be had, against the need to learn below a certain fundamental floor.

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The paragraph under the headline was almost not readable for me, had to highlight it. I think "text-neutral-500" blends too well with the dark background.

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Please verify colour contrast using a tool like contrastchecker[1]

Also, there are some accessibility issues with the page, use one of the Web Accessibility Evaluation Tools to fix this.

[1] https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/

[2] https://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/

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> Today's developers didn't learn binary before learning Python, why should you learn how to code without the most modern tools? This phrasing makes me wary. There's a difference between being self-taught, and not even bothering to teach yourself the absolute fundamentals of computing, like binary...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Learning binary and knowing what binary is are two separate things. I don't think you need to learn binary to learn to code. Been doing this for 25 years working at some big name companies, I don't know binary other than 1 is on, 0 is off. I'm starting to feel like this whole notion that newbies can't come in and learn say React or modern JavaScript without having to go all the way back to that day in 1995 when they…

> I don't know binary other than 1 is on, 2 is off. Either an epic troll or a great illustration :-D

haha you caught that before I fixed it, that my friend is the result of my failure of math in my great edumacation in the US public school system hahaha.

Also it's 9am and I just woke up a bit ago.

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