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Re: Why I’m quitting Hacker News

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You're arguing with and algorithm that says if comments > points then downweight. It's to avoid typical internet flame wars, it's not some rejection by the community or whatever you're inferring. It's just that it rehashes tired and well trodden internet discussions that aren't very interesting. What would you have rather seen happen? It stays at the top so people can pile on about how bad climate change is? Edit: I'…

"The cause is algorithmic. This is the algorithm. EDIT: The post doesn't follow the algorithm. But still, it's algorithmic, stop being conspiratorial."

Interesting take.

There is something called a flame war detector that I've seen referred to by the moderator. From experience this kicks in when comments overwhelm points as I said. I expect it's more sophisticated than that, and as I pointed out, comment to point ratio was clearly not the trigger here.

The next post plausible explanation would be a moderator lowered it's weighting because the discussion was skewing into a rehash of boring arguments.

I can also picture that some people flagged it (though usually this gets a [flagged] appended so it's unlikely. Maybe that qualifies as the community rejecting it and legitimizes the OP's complaint.

The least likely thjng possible is some kind of conspiracy to bury climate change stories.

Re: Why I’m quitting Hacker News

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I don't think it's reasonable to quit a site because a post you feel is important suddenly drops in ranking. There are all sorts of reasons this could happen, with user flagging by a tiny number of individuals probably being the most likely. It's currently sitting at the top of Page 3: https://hnrankings.info/36187203/.

If you genuinely think rage quitting is the best response, probably this place isn't a good fit for you and you should just go. But if your goal though is to improve the site (and possibly the world) for the better, you could send email to Dan (hn@ycombinator.com) and ask what happened here.

Re: Why I’m quitting Hacker News

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I noticed how highly voted the post was, so I went in to read the comments for a couple of minutes. When I hit "back" to return to the main page the post had mysteriously disappeared. I found it fleeing down the second page, past many stories which had lower scores and had been lingering for much longer periods. It was very surprising. These current-events climate stories are the most important pieces of news on the…

> These current-events climate stories are the most important pieces of news on the site. In your opinion. Many other HN users don't feel that way and get tired of seeing the same topic over and over again. If it's not intellectually interesting and seems overly political it's getting that flag button clicked. EDIT: Before downvoting/flagging me consider that maybe I don't hold the views you dislike. I'm making comme…

so why dont i see that with ai related stuff? hn has been basically a gpt news site the last 4 months. quite sick of it actually. i dont remember even 5 climate change big threads recently, it's like the issue doesnt exist here at all. climate change is not only political - there's tons of research and science involved. but it's better to know someone put gpt on self driving cars that can cook asian fusion hallucinated recipes. hn has its blind spots just like any other site.

Re: Why I’m quitting Hacker News

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Climate-change related posts that tell us what we already know, but trigger carpet-bombing by deniers, whether those may be deluded earnest posters with their identity somehow stuck to denial, or russian/oil-industry/whatever shills muddying the waters with posts on adaptation or costs miscalculations as their main angles... ...are indeed tiresome, as I kind of feel the urge to respond, argue, debunk. Is there any other intelligent discussion site that manages this better than HN though?

Re: Why I’m quitting Hacker News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The cause is algorithmic. This is the algorithm. EDIT: The post doesn't follow the algorithm. But still, it's algorithmic, stop being conspiratorial."

Interesting take. There is something called a flame war detector that I've seen referred to by the moderator. From experience this kicks in when comments overwhelm points as I said. I expect it's more sophisticated than that, and as I pointed out, comment to point ratio was clearly not the trigger here. The next post plausible explanation would be a moderator lowered it's weighting because the discussion was skewing…

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Re: Why I’m quitting Hacker News

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Climate-change related posts that tell us what we already know, but trigger carpet-bombing by deniers, whether those may be deluded earnest posters with their identity somehow stuck to denial, or russian/oil-industry/whatever shills muddying the waters with posts on adaptation or costs miscalculations as their main angles... ...are indeed tiresome, as I kind of feel the urge to respond, argue, debunk. Is there any ot…

This post isn't telling us most of us "already know." It's telling us that there's something really unusual going on with ocean temperatures right now, specifically, over the last 80 days. There have been a couple of posts on this before, but the last highly-rated one is over a month ago and so this was an important update. Chart: https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/

Re: Why I’m quitting Hacker News

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These current-events climate stories are the most important pieces of news on the site. In your opinion. Many other HN users don't feel that way and get tired of seeing the same topic over and over again. If it's not intellectually interesting and seems overly political it's getting that flag button clicked. EDIT: Before downvoting/flagging me consider that maybe I don't hold the views you dislike. I'm making comme…

so why dont i see that with ai related stuff? hn has been basically a gpt news site the last 4 months. quite sick of it actually. i dont remember even 5 climate change big threads recently, it's like the issue doesnt exist here at all. climate change is not only political - there's tons of research and science involved. but it's better to know someone put gpt on self driving cars that can cook asian fusion hallucinat…

https://twitter.com/short_straw/status/1655352280202313734

actually i'm off to lobsters. we are all just giving YC nerd cred for free they dont deserve.

anybody has an invite? ;)

Re: Why I’m quitting Hacker News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These current-events climate stories are the most important pieces of news on the site. In your opinion. Many other HN users don't feel that way and get tired of seeing the same topic over and over again. If it's not intellectually interesting and seems overly political it's getting that flag button clicked. EDIT: Before downvoting/flagging me consider that maybe I don't hold the views you dislike. I'm making comme…

The world's anomalous current ocean temperatures are not a political matter. And if your brain is telling you that they are, I would beg you to spend some time recalibrating. Or go read something else, there's lots of room on the front page.

> The world's anomalous current ocean temperatures are not a political matter.

Sure it is, if you believe that everyone considers this the biggest issue or that everyone comes to HN to read about climate news then I am sorry to deliver this shock to you that they don't.

>And if your brain is telling you that they are, I would beg you to spend some time recalibrating. Or go read something else, there's lots of room on the front page.

Are you just going to resort to ad hominem attacks or acknowledge that bringing up this topic will resort in discussion that's political in nature? That's all I'm asking, I haven't expressed my personal opinion only pointed out that not all people think or value things the same way, not even in the HN commenter bubble.

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