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Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

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Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

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Surprise surprise, government can mobilise police/army to protect their citizens. Who would have thought. Come on, no one knew if it was a new black death or just a harmless virus. The hysteria about government taking valid steps in an unclear situation is childish.

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Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

#14

Surprise surprise, government can mobilise police/army to protect their citizens. Who would have thought. Come on, no one knew if it was a new black death or just a harmless virus. The hysteria about government taking valid steps in an unclear situation is childish.

This would be more credible if BoJo (and many other elites) had not been partying while the government "protected" its citizens.

Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

#16

Surprise surprise, government can mobilise police/army to protect their citizens. Who would have thought. Come on, no one knew if it was a new black death or just a harmless virus. The hysteria about government taking valid steps in an unclear situation is childish.

The situation is unclear and no one knows what is going on, so dissent from the government's valid and totally non-hysterical steps will not be tolerated.

Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

#17
I can't read the article because it's paywalled (and I'm unwilling to give the Barclay family any cash) but I'm very sceptical about the accuracy of the article given the Telegraph's history of printing lies and nonsense about the pandemic.

See for example: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55676037

Does HN have any guidelines about paywalled articles? I assume a large proportion of people commenting here won't have read the article.

Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

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It's really quite amusing to see The Telegraph trying to claim the moral high ground over government interference and disinformation.

For those who don't know, The Telegraph is an extreme right media outlet which regularly publishes absolutely batshit denialist nonsense about Covid, climate change, immigration, and all the usual hits.

It's a Q drop for the UK's upper class.

Not coincidentally it used to employ Boris Johnson, and while PM he allegedly said that it was his real boss.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-refers-telegraph-re...

So here we are with more than 200,000 dead and more than 2 million with Long Covid.

Good job, Telegraph writers. I hope you're all proud of your "journalism."

Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

#19

Surprise surprise, government can mobilise police/army to protect their citizens. Who would have thought. Come on, no one knew if it was a new black death or just a harmless virus. The hysteria about government taking valid steps in an unclear situation is childish.

One issue is that it's a political decision on which citizens were protected.

Should we close schools semi-indefinitely to protect the elderly after vaccines were widely available (like in SF)?

Shutting down debates on these issues was and is controversial.

Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

#20
Governements are in a weird place on those fronts. Either they don't try to interfere with what happens on social media, and they are criticized for not protecting people, and also have to deal with the consequences (I'd argue that misinformation about a disease will have health consequences. Maybe they're overedtimated, though ?)

Alternatively, they have to try and "police" social media, which can not look like anything but policing free speech, which, especially in times of uncertainty, is bound to backfire.

I wonder if people would be concerned too if the social media platforms were, in the end, ruled by juges rather than governments?

It would still be a "them", but at least it would not be the same "them". Or would the social networks start to revolt against judges ?

(Yes, I know, it will look a lot like separation of powers ((c) Montesquieu), and like we're going to reinvent "judges" and "the laws of free press from the late 1800s" any time soon.)

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