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Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by dizhn »

opan wrote: post #7

The title says "open source" but then goes on to talk about leaked source. Unless a clean room RE was done, I don't think this can be called "open source". I want the thing in the title to exist, of course, but at best this seems like the sort of thing that won't be legal and free until we're all dead. If anyone was interested in making a properly free CS:GO, they probably should avoid reading this post as it seems t…

This person is really confused about licenses and copyright.

> Please note that this code is property of Valve-Software and any contributions that you make are considered a donation into the public domain.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

GaggiX wrote: post #10

I dream of a day when the source code for Mario Kart Wii is leaked (my favorite game), but I guess CS:Go and TF2 is already something. But to be honest, in the future there will be powerful models trained to reverse engineer binaries, so it probably won't be necessary.

There's a vibrant Mario Kart Wii mapmaking community and you can run the game flawlessly using Dolphin. It's not perfect, but it's about as good as we can hope for.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by Jack5500 »

This world view is quite perplexing, to be frank. On one hand, he urges potential users to switch to Linux, emphasizing its cost-free nature and the freedom it offers in terms of code and game direction. However, on the other hand, the code being used is stolen and leaked, thus infringing on the original creator's copyright. Additionally, the repository's license claims that all contributions are considered public domain, which adds to the oddity of the situation. Since there is no legitimate license permitting the existence of this code, it is even more peculiar that a custom license is being invented, allowing contributions to this clearly stolen source code to be considered public domain.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by GaggiX »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #12
GaggiX wrote: post #10

I dream of a day when the source code for Mario Kart Wii is leaked (my favorite game), but I guess CS:Go and TF2 is already something. But to be honest, in the future there will be powerful models trained to reverse engineer binaries, so it probably won't be necessary.

There's a vibrant Mario Kart Wii mapmaking community and you can run the game flawlessly using Dolphin. It's not perfect, but it's about as good as we can hope for.

I play modded Mario Kart Wii almost everyday on my modded Wii U, there are so many beautiful community tracks.

Creating tracks is fairly easy, the community has already reverse engineer all you need, changing the game behavior by modifying the main.dol and StaticR.rel is not (that's why a source leak or a complete reverse engineering would be gold).

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by orra »

opan wrote: post #7

The title says "open source" but then goes on to talk about leaked source. Unless a clean room RE was done, I don't think this can be called "open source". I want the thing in the title to exist, of course, but at best this seems like the sort of thing that won't be legal and free until we're all dead. If anyone was interested in making a properly free CS:GO, they probably should avoid reading this post as it seems t…

General point: Clean room reverse engineering is a common approach, from corporations keen to minimise their liability.

Nonetheless, clean room RE is not a legal requirement: certainly not in the EU, nor AIUI in the US.

The EU allows reverse engineering for interoperability. The EU allows reimplementations of APIs (as does the US). The EU also explicitly allows decompilation, where necessary.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by [deleted] »

orra wrote: post #15
opan wrote: post #7

The title says "open source" but then goes on to talk about leaked source. Unless a clean room RE was done, I don't think this can be called "open source". I want the thing in the title to exist, of course, but at best this seems like the sort of thing that won't be legal and free until we're all dead. If anyone was interested in making a properly free CS:GO, they probably should avoid reading this post as it seems t…

General point: Clean room reverse engineering is a common approach, from corporations keen to minimise their liability. Nonetheless, clean room RE is not a legal requirement: certainly not in the EU, nor AIUI in the US. The EU allows reverse engineering for interoperability. The EU allows reimplementations of APIs (as does the US). The EU also explicitly allows decompilation, where necessary.

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Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by antris »

opan wrote: post #7

The title says "open source" but then goes on to talk about leaked source. Unless a clean room RE was done, I don't think this can be called "open source". I want the thing in the title to exist, of course, but at best this seems like the sort of thing that won't be legal and free until we're all dead. If anyone was interested in making a properly free CS:GO, they probably should avoid reading this post as it seems t…

Well that's the difference between "open source" and "free software", no? "Open source", meaning that anyone can see/copy the source code, and "free software" meaning code that is licensed accordingly.

I always thought that "open source" has nothing to do with what's legal and what isn't, it just means that anyone can materially access the code.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by wyldfire »

antris wrote: post #19
opan wrote: post #7

The title says "open source" but then goes on to talk about leaked source. Unless a clean room RE was done, I don't think this can be called "open source". I want the thing in the title to exist, of course, but at best this seems like the sort of thing that won't be legal and free until we're all dead. If anyone was interested in making a properly free CS:GO, they probably should avoid reading this post as it seems t…

Well that's the difference between "open source" and "free software", no? "Open source", meaning that anyone can see/copy the source code, and "free software" meaning code that is licensed accordingly. I always thought that "open source" has nothing to do with what's legal and what isn't, it just means that anyone can materially access the code.

No. Both of these terms are well described by the relevant organizations [1][2]. And "source the happens to be public" or "leaked source" does not imply any particular license.

[1] https://opensource.org/

[2] https://www.fsf.org/

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