This is good news. This is basically stating that AI is inventive (which it is, in my humble opinion).
Japan’s government will not enforce copyrights on data used in AI training
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#12So if you train an audio model on say, Eminem's voice, then write some songs and have it perform them...Would this output be legal to publish?
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#13Considering the amount of animes Japan does produce, they could very probably train amazing AIs: they could assist in a significant way the creative process of such studios (look at digital corridor experiment). Worth to try for a long time and maybe waste a lot of resources.
It'd be really great to finally see some anime models hit the Stable Diffusion scene.
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#15So if you train an audio model on say, Eminem's voice, then write some songs and have it perform them...Would this output be legal to publish?
What's the difference between that and someone else who just happens to sound like Eminem in terms out output?
As long as you don't market yourself as Eminem that should be completely legal.
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#16This is good news. This is basically stating that AI is inventive (which it is, in my humble opinion).
What if you overfit your model to the point of exact reproduction? Or anything in between that and what you consider inventive. Where is the line drawn.
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#17If you're not going to socialize AI gains, and leave in place the social systems that value people by their output, waiving copyright or other IP is astoundingly anti-humane.
What should be instead is that fair use doesn't apply to AI training. That is, anything other than explicitly negotiated opt-in should be illegal.
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#18Japan also ranks 3rd (behind the USA & India, with larger populations) in ChatGPT usage: https://www.demandsage.com/chatgpt-statistics/ There's also been discussion of their government using ChatGPT to reduce red tape: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-18/japan-gov... It's cool to see Japan and Japanese culture taking techno-optimist stances on AI.
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#19I think this should generally be true. The aggregation performed by model training is highly lossy and the model itself is a derived work at worst and is certainly fair use. It may produce stuff that violates copyright, but the way you use or distribute the product of the model that can violate copyright. Making it write code that’s a clone of copyright code or making it make pictures with copy right imagery in it or making it reproduce books etc etc, then distributing the output, would be where the copyright violation occurs.
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#20Is the wording accurate here? This is essentially the only source besides the untranslated article and the machine translated version sounds confusing (whether it applies to what is created by AI or what can be consumed in training).
What actually happened was that Takashi Kii of the Constitutional Democratic Party of Japan was arguing that the current laws (from 2018) are problematic because they are extremely loose and allow even illegally obtained content to be used for training, and he asked Keiko Nagao, Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology to confirm that this is the case.
She confirmed that under current laws that's true but said that they need to keep an eye on it because there's a balance between the development of new AI technology and protection of copyright.
The Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology is also in the process of compiling information about case law on copyright and AI but there don't seem to be any current plans to amend the law again in either direction.
(You can see the whole exchange here although the translated autogenerated subtitles on youtube may not be great: https://youtu.be/fyxx_0KmaKw?t=4457 )