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Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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As we get closer to the next big version (wherein most of the apocalyptic changes take place) I'll be reading HN for useful lists of alternatives. Anyone with useful suggestions can chip in now of course :)

Linux Mint 11 and 12 are great alternatives. The Mint team has also made Cinnamon[1] which is also a great alternative to the default GNOME3 interface. If you don't want to reinstall Linux, Cinnamon is available for lots of the major distros, or you can compile it yourself.

[1] http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1910

Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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"The 'usability studies' that get quoted whenever I have talked to people from Canonical about this have participation numbers that are laughably low. Having a focus group with two or three dozen hand-picked candidates to 'evaluate' complex user experience changes like these does not seem convincing to me. It seems ludicrous."

Dismissing out of hand as "ludicrous" that user research on small groups can and very often does produce useful results is enough to discredit the rest of this guy's rant. He wants to be a part of the design process but doesn't understand even the most basic practices of user research.

I am not a programmer and I do not demand representation in coding decisions and I do not criticize code choices I can't possibly understand. I wish that people who are not UX and UR practitioners would afford designers some of that same respect.

Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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I'm glad Canonical is trying to bridge the gap between Linux and an Apple-like design aesthetic. The Linux desktop experience has been extremely unfriendly to less than expert level users, and it'd be great if that changed. But if history is any indication, that means adopting a more top-down decision making process. Making tough choices, and streamlining design isn't something that comes out of forum discussions.

Of course, not liking the direction of Ubuntu is your prerogative. However, the great thing about Open Source is that you and like-minded buddies can move to a different distribution or remix Ubuntu to your preferences. In that case, everyone gets what they want.

Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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post #4

more accurate title: "ubuntu: i don't like what you're doing anymore." ubuntu isn't doing anything wrong. they're not doing things the old way, nor are they pretending to. it's top down control with unilateral decisions, but that's what's necessary to move forward. for a product to come out well, decisions have to be made. if you listen to everybody, you get a product that sacrifices quality in favour of not pissing…

He already rebutted this in the article with the example of GNOME 3. But I agree with nextparadigms; if "Linux is about choice", why not have one distro that does things differently? The only real problem with Ubuntu IMO was the fact that they built a community of volunteers and then disregarded their input, bait-and-switch style.

Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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post #5

As we get closer to the next big version (wherein most of the apocalyptic changes take place) I'll be reading HN for useful lists of alternatives. Anyone with useful suggestions can chip in now of course :)

I'll be paying attention to what disaffected Ubuntu users switch to... but I'll try the new Ubuntu out before I (possibly) switch away.

Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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post #5

As we get closer to the next big version (wherein most of the apocalyptic changes take place) I'll be reading HN for useful lists of alternatives. Anyone with useful suggestions can chip in now of course :)

If you don't like the choices made by Canonical for Ubuntu, just use Debian.

Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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I don't mind the some of the directions they have taken with Unity (I've switched to Gnome 3 at this time, I feel more comfortable it, even with no shutdown/restart option in menu ;p) but the shear lack of ability to customize is really annoying. I understand them choosing defaults but why take away all ability to customize?

Also, some changes still make no sense to me, the buttons on the left still annoy me. The dock sometimes interferes with those buttons when the windows aren't maximized.

I guess I'm no longer their target audience. I feel sad about that as their really isn't many alternative I find appealing. I could use Debian directly but I still find that Ubuntu was doing a great job at cleaning up tedious issues with Linux. Their new installer that asks questions while writing files to disk is such an obvious thing it should have been done years ago. There is plenty of other areas that they've truly improved in the Linux experience. The last UI stuff is just not there yet.

I'll continue to use it with Gnome 3 for now.

Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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post #4

more accurate title: "ubuntu: i don't like what you're doing anymore." ubuntu isn't doing anything wrong. they're not doing things the old way, nor are they pretending to. it's top down control with unilateral decisions, but that's what's necessary to move forward. for a product to come out well, decisions have to be made. if you listen to everybody, you get a product that sacrifices quality in favour of not pissing…

But the person making the decisions not a designer. When you load Unity for the first time you have to be taken aback, or at least I was, but how glaringly ugly it is.

Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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post #5

As we get closer to the next big version (wherein most of the apocalyptic changes take place) I'll be reading HN for useful lists of alternatives. Anyone with useful suggestions can chip in now of course :)

I had a laptop with bodhi on it for a while, and I really enjoyed the non-Win95, non-OSX model of doing things. It took some getting used to though.

Re: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

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Canonical wants to create somethingm the OS Mark dreamed of, just like the GNOME and KDE people, what's wrong with that?

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” ― Henry Ford

Sometimes you need to decide whats best for the user. Most users do not want choices, most users want something consistent that works and that is what Canonical is trying to deliver.

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