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Poll: Preferred alternate JVM language

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Re: Poll: Preferred alternate JVM language

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A rather useless question. The word "prefer" is much too vague. I'd be rather interested in how much experience people actually have with these languages and whether they plan to continue using that language in future projects.

The popularity of a language is important. If developers don't like a language they won't use it. Look at Ruby a few years ago as an example of a popular language which was hardly used which became on of the most widely used scripting languages in modern times.

Re: Poll: Preferred alternate JVM language

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I know this is about the alternatives, and I'm probably absolutely mad, but I still prefer Java over all the new alternatives. It still feels "solid" and dependable and without much fluff.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2952732/samples-of-scala-...

Re: Poll: Preferred alternate JVM language

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I think a better way to phrase the poll would be: Which alternative JVM language do you actively use most? I've met a lot of people who like and use groovy and have it in production but almost nobody who actively uses clojure or scala. Maybe I am biased by my social circle or maybe people are just answering the poll based on what language they think is coolest and not the one they actually use.

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Re: Poll: Preferred alternate JVM language

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I didn't like this poll, with only being able to make one choice. Should be a "favorites" poll. I rely pretty heavily on both Clojure and JRuby for my work, and for experimental learning projects. I would have liked to vote for both languages.

Edit: I just took the poll a second time, problem solved :-)

Re: Poll: Preferred alternate JVM language

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I did vote on Scala, but actually I would rather that we return to languages that compile direct to native code.

I agree, I much prefer native compiled languages. I really like clojure and used it for about a year. I stopped because In doing a lot of embedded development so I need to use C and Ive been using C++/qt for desktop gui apps. Since then, though, Ive been kinda put off going back to clojure because its not native compiled even though I like the language itself.

Re: Poll: Preferred alternate JVM language

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A rather useless question. The word "prefer" is much too vague. I'd be rather interested in how much experience people actually have with these languages and whether they plan to continue using that language in future projects.

The popularity of a language is important. If developers don't like a language they won't use it. Look at Ruby a few years ago as an example of a popular language which was hardly used which became on of the most widely used scripting languages in modern times.

I'm not sure though whether "prefer" (prefer for or as what?) actually measures popularity ... but what kind of popularity anyway? Fanboy-fellowship? People actually using it for work that earns them a living? Hearsay/gossip?

With respect to your ruby example, I have been using ruby for about 10 years but stopped doing so a few years ago. So please excuse me if I fail to see your point. :-)

Re: Poll: Preferred alternate JVM language

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The popularity of a language is important. If developers don't like a language they won't use it. Look at Ruby a few years ago as an example of a popular language which was hardly used which became on of the most widely used scripting languages in modern times.

I'm not sure though whether "prefer" (prefer for or as what?) actually measures popularity ... but what kind of popularity anyway? Fanboy-fellowship? People actually using it for work that earns them a living? Hearsay/gossip? With respect to your ruby example, I have been using ruby for about 10 years but stopped doing so a few years ago. So please excuse me if I fail to see your point. :-)

Commonly used and popular are not the same thing. I happen to know a number of developers who hate Java, but code in Java for a living. By popular I mean number of developers who actually enjoy using the language. There are better ways to measure usage e.g. job ads on indeed.com.
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