Wonder the security level is on these things.
I can't believe it's come to this but are team Xecutor busy?
HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
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Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
#12I hope that Brother doesn't succumb to the same forces that drove HP (and everyone else) to these decisions. In the short term it makes sense for HP because
1. At first the printer works well. This causes reviewers, who only use the printer a few times when it's new, to write a good review.
2. It lets them keep the up-front price of their printers low. Most people only consider up-front cost and not total cost of ownership. It also helps with getting a good review.
3. They get some recurring revenue from customers who don't want to deal non-name-brand ink. They just want their printer to work and they're willing to pay.
Brother, on the other hand, is slightly more expensive but is better built and works with off-brand ink. We have a brother laser printer and it's great. The ink doesn't dry out like an inkjet, we can buy ink from wherever, and it doesn't break down every few months.
I just hope that brother understands that going HP-mode would probably give a short-term bump but hurt their name in the long run.
Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
#13Buy a thermal printer!
It just burns the paper and is usually good enough for majority of your needs.
Keep a cheap ink based printer handy because the world hasn't moved on yet
Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
#14It's incredible how HP is destroying its brand. At this point I will never buy an HP printer again, not just because of the terrible practices, but (mostly) because of uncertainty: I definitely do not need printer drama in my life.
Just stick with laser printers and you're fine, even with HP. The problems all seem to be on the inkjet side. Aside from needing to print photos... laser printers are cheaper, more reliable, have higher quality output, and don't need special drivers. (And for the special case of photos, dedicated 4x6 dye sublimation printers are better than inkjet anyway.)
Laser printers are not necessarily cheaper. Business class ink printers have a lower cost/page in many cases.
Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
#15Buy a thermal printer! It just burns the paper and is usually good enough for majority of your needs. Keep a cheap ink based printer handy because the world hasn't moved on yet
Don't they use special paper? And fade after a few years?
Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
#16Buy a thermal printer! It just burns the paper and is usually good enough for majority of your needs. Keep a cheap ink based printer handy because the world hasn't moved on yet
Don't they use special paper? And fade after a few years?
Yes and yes, actually it will fade even quicker - and of course don't think to keep them in sunlight. So it's okay to carry along a minuscule printer (you can get thermals the size of a stick) to update your handouts before a meeting, but that's about it.
Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just stick with laser printers and you're fine, even with HP. The problems all seem to be on the inkjet side. Aside from needing to print photos... laser printers are cheaper, more reliable, have higher quality output, and don't need special drivers. (And for the special case of photos, dedicated 4x6 dye sublimation printers are better than inkjet anyway.)
Laser printers are not necessarily cheaper. Business class ink printers have a lower cost/page in many cases.
The second hand market has enough printers that I would just buy whatever second hand laser you can get - the savings from it being used would offset whatever cost-per-page difference there is anyway.
Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
#18I hope this practice is never extended to their more expensive (i.e. a few hundred euros/dollars) laser printers. I would not touch a cheap consumer-grade HP printer if you paid me, but have generally found that their more expensive printers are still a sane choice for someone who needs to do a lot of printing.
Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
#19It's incredible how HP is destroying its brand. At this point I will never buy an HP printer again, not just because of the terrible practices, but (mostly) because of uncertainty: I definitely do not need printer drama in my life.
Just stick with laser printers and you're fine, even with HP. The problems all seem to be on the inkjet side. Aside from needing to print photos... laser printers are cheaper, more reliable, have higher quality output, and don't need special drivers. (And for the special case of photos, dedicated 4x6 dye sublimation printers are better than inkjet anyway.)
That's what I have been doing for years — but using Brother. Most boring printers ever. They just sit there and print when you need them to. From a Mac, from an iPhone, doesn't matter, they just do the job. No drama.
Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer
#20Buy a thermal printer! It just burns the paper and is usually good enough for majority of your needs. Keep a cheap ink based printer handy because the world hasn't moved on yet
Don't they use special paper? And fade after a few years?
Yes, and the special thermal paper sheds BPA when you handle it.