Is this really going to work? Aren't they laying off people? Just layoff the walkouts
Seattle Amazon workers plan walkout over return to office, layoffs
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Re: Seattle Amazon workers plan walkout over return to office, layoffs
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of them sadly can not get even a non remote job easily. Most of big tech, and Amazon specially, massively lowered their hiring floor to hire more over the years, and are full of extremely incompetent people who will find it hard to survive elsewhere. Orgs are more like fiefdoms and full of incompetent people. A lot of such incompetent people know they are incompetent and go to massive lengths to survive (getting…
Who can get a remote job easily? The top performers. Incoming dead sea effect.
Yes, so return to office will cause top performers to leave. The incompetent people are not going anywhere due to such policies.
Re: Seattle Amazon workers plan walkout over return to office, layoffs
#13The danger of any walkout is that you won't be allowed to walk back in. The time for useful collective action was back when tech companies couldn't hire fast enough, and tech employees enjoyed unusual leverage. After 27,000 layoffs, a performative walkout without a defined goal is just making it easier for Amazon management as they plan the next round of cuts.
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#14If these workers could get remote jobs, they would- but they can’t. Amazon knows this, and probably can’t wait for them to quit. For now all they can do is complain about having to go to an office to be a spoiled, overpaid tech worker. If I had that job I would be keeping my mouth shut and enjoying the paycheck, but to each their own I suppose.
Instead of begging to be exploited by billionaires, yob could band together with your fellow tech workers and win better treatment for all of us.
What? These people have lives better than 99% of the population.
Re: Seattle Amazon workers plan walkout over return to office, layoffs
#15This is long overdue. It is well past time for tech workers to organize and demand a larger share of the billions in wealth we’ve generated for the VCs and CEOs.
Getting FAANG salary isn’t enough?
Re: Seattle Amazon workers plan walkout over return to office, layoffs
#16If these workers could get remote jobs, they would- but they can’t. Amazon knows this, and probably can’t wait for them to quit. For now all they can do is complain about having to go to an office to be a spoiled, overpaid tech worker. If I had that job I would be keeping my mouth shut and enjoying the paycheck, but to each their own I suppose.
Believe it or not, there are other motivating factors for doing good work than money. Just because I'm fairly compensated doesn't mean I'm going to tolerate major inconveniences that impede my ability to work efficiently, productively, and with a positive attitude. Part of why I want to do my job well is because I find the work itself gratifying. Once that motivating factor vanishes, I'm going to complain or look elsewhere for work. It's in both parties' best interest for complaints to happen, to be heard, and to be addressed, so that workers can get back to being both content for themselves and productive for the company.
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#18Wow, the pro-corp tone in some of the comments is surprising. Software jobs are one of the few remaining ones where we still hold the means of production -- and can withhold them to our leverage. These folks are walking out for the right reasons -- big f-off to RTO, and even if a bit late, the layoffs.
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#19Is this really going to work? Aren't they laying off people? Just layoff the walkouts
that's likely a major motive behind RTO, yes - voluntary attrition and termination with cause (ie no severance, unlike layoffs and pip). A large walk out would probably boost share pricing.
Re: Seattle Amazon workers plan walkout over return to office, layoffs
#20This is long overdue. It is well past time for tech workers to organize and demand a larger share of the billions in wealth we’ve generated for the VCs and CEOs.
Why just tech? Can't the same be said for employees of any successful company?