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The AI revolution already transforming education

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Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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> …forcing children to spend years learning longhand sums that can be easily done by computers. If we don't teach this, we'll forget how we got computers to do arithmetic in the first place. Not teaching basic arithmetic skills would be unconscionable.

The better part is calling it 'forcing'. As a young kid I used to enjoy long operation on paper (sum/mul/sqrt), no one forced me. The process helps understands the basic principles

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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There is no "ai" revolution and nothing is being transformed. Please enough of this already.

When was the last time that a hype of this magnitude blew every other conversational topic away? Something is being transformed all right, the interesting question is how long it will last.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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> …forcing children to spend years learning longhand sums that can be easily done by computers. If we don't teach this, we'll forget how we got computers to do arithmetic in the first place. Not teaching basic arithmetic skills would be unconscionable.

Your comment very much reminds me of the Isaac Asimov story "The Feeling of Power" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feeling_of_Power). I think it might be worth the time read or, in my case, re-read it.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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There is no "ai" revolution and nothing is being transformed. Please enough of this already.

When was the last time that a hype of this magnitude blew every other conversational topic away? Something is being transformed all right, the interesting question is how long it will last.

My guess is when enough LLM tools have been created for various use cases, until the insurmountable flaws of their nature are finally broadly realized (of course not implying there's no usefulness to them).

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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post #11

> …forcing children to spend years learning longhand sums that can be easily done by computers. If we don't teach this, we'll forget how we got computers to do arithmetic in the first place. Not teaching basic arithmetic skills would be unconscionable.

The better part is calling it 'forcing'. As a young kid I used to enjoy long operation on paper (sum/mul/sqrt), no one forced me. The process helps understands the basic principles

Do we really believe it's a good idea to make a case for people being even less mathematically inclined than they already are?

I don't.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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There is no "ai" revolution and nothing is being transformed. Please enough of this already.

My partner that is just learning programming, first asks the doubts to CHAT-GPT and most of the time the explanation and details are good, specific to her issue and easy to understand.

Compare that to a list of examples and documentation on generic issues/topics, without ever going into the specifics of a reasonable question.

Apply this to any kind of knowledge.

I think that it is a wonderful tool for education, and it is indeed changing the pace at which people learn.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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post #17

There is no "ai" revolution and nothing is being transformed. Please enough of this already.

My partner that is just learning programming, first asks the doubts to CHAT-GPT and most of the time the explanation and details are good, specific to her issue and easy to understand. Compare that to a list of examples and documentation on generic issues/topics, without ever going into the specifics of a reasonable question. Apply this to any kind of knowledge. I think that it is a wonderful tool for education, and…

I’ve been teaching myself to code for the last 8-10 months. ChatGPT has greatly accelerated my learning. If I want to accomplish something, I can ask GPT to give me an overview of frameworks, tools, and design processes to accomplish it - stuff I would normally ask on Stackoverflow (and get scolded).

I also like that it’s a judgment free tool where I can ask as dumb a question as possible without fear of being mocked or chastised.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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The better part is calling it 'forcing'. As a young kid I used to enjoy long operation on paper (sum/mul/sqrt), no one forced me. The process helps understands the basic principles

Do we really believe it's a good idea to make a case for people being even less mathematically inclined than they already are? I don't.

Personally, being forced into some specifics topics only made me less inclined to put any effort or have interest in them.

Some people have an innate interest in some topics. Some don’t. Some that don’t can develop one if properly prompted at different times in different ways. Others never will.

I fail to see how forcing anyone is supposed to help. It’s only a symptom of an earlier failure.

I for one am glad that some preferred playing the piano, and were given the freedom to, to solving n-degree polynomial equations. Because I sure can’t be bothered to learn to play, and I definitely like listening to some of them.

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