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Re: We will be shutting down neeva.com

#12
I changed my default search engine to neeva just a couple days ago. Unfortunate since I really liked their product. The team probably has a few domain experts in generative AI and infra at this point, and so they can make or raise more money by pivoting completely to direction.

Re: We will be shutting down neeva.com

#15

The team at Neeva was A+. It is quite commendable that they managed to build a real search engine (unlike DuckDuckGo which is a shim on Bing) that was comparable to Google with such a small team. Neeva aimed to solve the problem of ads clogging the entire search results page with an ad-free search experience. My opinion of Neeva was that it solved a problem that doesn't exist. Anyone who is annoyed with ads can insta…

They over estimated the market on the table —- in tech circle people want to end Google and are willing to pay. For the average user, they have no clue how the ad business works or harms society

Re: We will be shutting down neeva.com

#16

The team at Neeva was A+. It is quite commendable that they managed to build a real search engine (unlike DuckDuckGo which is a shim on Bing) that was comparable to Google with such a small team. Neeva aimed to solve the problem of ads clogging the entire search results page with an ad-free search experience. My opinion of Neeva was that it solved a problem that doesn't exist. Anyone who is annoyed with ads can insta…

AFAIK Neeva does use Bing [1]. You might be confused with Brave [2], which claims to be Bing-fee.

* [1] https://neeva.com/massets/ask-neeva/does-neeva-use-bing.html * [2] https://brave.com/search-independence/

Re: We will be shutting down neeva.com

#17
post #5

Sorry to see you go, was rooting for you guys. A telling insight from Sridhar's email: "Contrary to popular belief, convincing someone to pay for a better experience was actually a less difficult problem compared to getting them to try a new search engine in the first place."

They went for the Google++ model. That isn’t enough to cause a switch. You need Google x 10 or 100 to unseat the beast.

I’m very glad they tried though. Gives us hackers hope that building a Google quality index outside of Google is not unimaginable

Re: We will be shutting down neeva.com

#18
Neeva was great and I enjoyed using it until…

The media bias feature was added. It was silly and probably not cheap to create.

The StackOverflow integration was terrible and a misdirection. Completely unusable.

Then the LLM came. It was slow and inaccurate and in your face . I asked to have it disabled but found now way. I stopped using it soon after.

Too bad. At its core was a great engine from my experience.

Re: We will be shutting down neeva.com

#19

I hadn't heard of this website, SiliconAngle.com, before this week but they interviewed someone from the company that I work at (not for this Neeva article; for a different article), so they're actually a real news reporting organization. I was reading that article with my colleague's interview this week when I saw the Snowflake + Neeva article title in the sidebar on SiliconAngle.com https://siliconangle.com/2023/05…

The signal to noise ratio in this comment is pretty low haha. The only relevant information here is

a.) the headline - "Snowflake in Talks to Buy Search Startup Neeva in AI Push" b.) that you're not sure how reputable the site is.

Instead, you have included several details about how you were reading some other article, leading you to think they are reputable. Then reading (the same? another?) article about a colleague of yours (okay?) where you found a (relevant?) article on that site. You link it, but don't summarize or even paste the headline and go on to discuss _yet another_ organization cited _in_ the article?

I'm sorry - not trying to be rude. It's just very jarring to me when people write in this manner where they are explaining everything _but_ the important parts.

Re: We will be shutting down neeva.com

#20

There is an all out war for search supremacy right now between two trillion dollar companies, with one having everything to win and the other everything to lose. In those circumstances a standard VC model of buying growth does not work even if you have a huge war chest, as you will be outspent no matter how big your investors are. As a founder of a startup in the same space (Kagi) we feel these challenges. We face di…

Bing doesn't need to win — they just want Google to be a little less profitable.
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