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I lived in LA and commuted to Berkeley by plane to save on rent

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Re: I lived in LA and commuted to Berkeley by plane to save on rent

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I never understand how NIMBYSM is considered environmentally correct or friendly. Every movement is taken over by vested interests. Average 4-8 floor height buildings with existing American infrastructure otherwise should be enough to flood market with 'cheap enough' homes.

Does anyone consider NIMBYism environmentally friendly?

No, but environmental reviews are a popular tool for enforcing it

Re: I lived in LA and commuted to Berkeley by plane to save on rent

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> Total Cost: $5592.66

For 10 months. Even if true story, only make sense if you can find rent $559 cheaper in LA (and don't value your time & the environment of course). It was extra special for the OP as he'd live rent free in LA.

> Typically, the door-to-door commute time between my home in LA and my classroom in Berkeley is 4-5hrs EACH WAY

Waking up at 3:30am and wasting 9h every day doesn't seem worth the $ savings. I feel a part time on-campus job or something would be less draining, more rewarding, and financially same...

Re: I lived in LA and commuted to Berkeley by plane to save on rent

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> Total Cost: $5592.66 This is highly misleading since it doesn't include $ value of all the freq flyer miles used (as far as i can tell). And I'm left wondering was it really cheaper? If yes, by how much?

FTA: > I was living in LA, rent free. But also, FTA: > August 2022-May 2023 So 10 months. At the quoted amount of 5592, that's 559 dollars a month. Do you think you could find a reasonable, safe, clean place to live in the Berkely area for 560 / mo? A quick search says no.

>Do you think you could find a reasonable, safe, clean place to live in the Berkely area for 560 / mo? A quick search says no.

But to get that low quoted amount, you need to ignore the value of the frequent flyer miles used, and the value of his time spent commuting. If you factor those in, the cost is about $17.8k for the fall semester alone, plenty of money to get a nice place to live.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35997647

Re: I lived in LA and commuted to Berkeley by plane to save on rent

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> Total Cost: $5592.66 This is highly misleading since it doesn't include $ value of all the freq flyer miles used (as far as i can tell). And I'm left wondering was it really cheaper? If yes, by how much?

>This is highly misleading since it doesn't include $ value of all the freq flyer miles used (as far as i can tell). Yep. Here are the amounts with the value of the miles factored in[1]: >$1366.06 on Alaska, 307500 Alaska miles 307500 Alaska miles * 1.2 cents/mile = $3690 >$380.86 on Southwest, 43732 Southwest points 43732 Southwest points * 1.5 cents/point = $655.98 >$42.80 on United, 5500 United miles 5500 United m…

At least when I was in the Bay Area around 4 years ago, it was possible to get a 3 bedroom apartment right by Ashby BART for $3,000/mo. So yeah I don’t think this worked in this persons favor especially given the miserable schedule

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

FTA: > I was living in LA, rent free. But also, FTA: > August 2022-May 2023 So 10 months. At the quoted amount of 5592, that's 559 dollars a month. Do you think you could find a reasonable, safe, clean place to live in the Berkely area for 560 / mo? A quick search says no.

>Do you think you could find a reasonable, safe, clean place to live in the Berkely area for 560 / mo? A quick search says no. But to get that low quoted amount, you need to ignore the value of the frequent flyer miles used, and the value of his time spent commuting. If you factor those in, the cost is about $17.8k for the fall semester alone, plenty of money to get a nice place to live. [1] https://news.ycombinator.…

Sorry I'm not understanding the point you're trying to make. This person handed over the 5500 in cash, not the 17.8k you quoted, correct? It's not like they had a budget of 17.8k, because they wouldn't have gotten those miles had they not been flying in the first place.

Re: I lived in LA and commuted to Berkeley by plane to save on rent

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> Total Cost: $5592.66 This is highly misleading since it doesn't include $ value of all the freq flyer miles used (as far as i can tell). And I'm left wondering was it really cheaper? If yes, by how much?

FTA: > I was living in LA, rent free. But also, FTA: > August 2022-May 2023 So 10 months. At the quoted amount of 5592, that's 559 dollars a month. Do you think you could find a reasonable, safe, clean place to live in the Berkely area for 560 / mo? A quick search says no.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/roo/d/san-francisco-awesome...

BART would usually be faster

Re: I lived in LA and commuted to Berkeley by plane to save on rent

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My takeaway from reading about the person's experience is that we need better high speed public transportation in California. It would unlock a lot of economic and non-economic opportunities if people can move across the state within an hour. Imagine if Berkeley was a commuter school for people in Los Angeles, or UCLA was a commuter school for people in Bay Area.

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> Total Cost: $5592.66 For 10 months. Even if true story, only make sense if you can find rent $559 cheaper in LA (and don't value your time & the environment of course). It was extra special for the OP as he'd live rent free in LA. > Typically, the door-to-door commute time between my home in LA and my classroom in Berkeley is 4-5hrs EACH WAY Waking up at 3:30am and wasting 9h every day doesn't seem worth the $ savi…

Whatever part time job you have on campus, it sure isn't going to make you enough to rent anything close to a good location. You'd still have to commute quite far, just now you also have to work.

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> Total Cost: $5592.66 For 10 months. Even if true story, only make sense if you can find rent $559 cheaper in LA (and don't value your time & the environment of course). It was extra special for the OP as he'd live rent free in LA. > Typically, the door-to-door commute time between my home in LA and my classroom in Berkeley is 4-5hrs EACH WAY Waking up at 3:30am and wasting 9h every day doesn't seem worth the $ savi…

Also they used a lot of miles. So real $ cost would be higher.

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My takeaway from reading about the person's experience is that we need better high speed public transportation in California. It would unlock a lot of economic and non-economic opportunities if people can move across the state within an hour. Imagine if Berkeley was a commuter school for people in Los Angeles, or UCLA was a commuter school for people in Bay Area.

This is the entire point of the high speed rail. It unlocks new labor markets. Now workers can live maybe not in LA and commute to berkeley, but further in the central valley and go either way. Cities like Fresno or Merced could see booms as these areas take on the housing demand brought on by labor.
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