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'We're all worse off': Britain is now paying the price to leave the EU

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Re: 'We're all worse off': Britain is now paying the price to leave the EU

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Can somebody from the UK confirm? It's been a hugely divisive topic from what I've gathered in the last years. Are things on average worse, or the same, or better?

Worse, much worse - but it's still unclear how much of that can be chalked up to Brexit vs. the war vs. corona.

It was hugely divisive between 2016-2019 but once it dropped off the media's radar people mostly stopped talking about it (before corona).

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For me there is value (I'm not sure exactly how much) to avoid having an unelected technocrats in Brussels (and sometimes Strasbourg) write the rules I must abide by.

Now you can have an unelected technocrat somewhere in the UK write the standards for your new toaster. Or more likely it'll just be forgotten in the bonfire of regulations and you'll end up dead on your kitchen floor in a warm pool of butter.

Re: 'We're all worse off': Britain is now paying the price to leave the EU

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post #9

For me there is value (I'm not sure exactly how much) to avoid having an unelected technocrats in Brussels (and sometimes Strasbourg) write the rules I must abide by.

Now you can have an unelected technocrat somewhere in the UK write the standards for your new toaster. Or more likely it'll just be forgotten in the bonfire of regulations and you'll end up dead on your kitchen floor in a warm pool of butter.

Or, even more likely, we’ll just adopt the EU rules anyway as it’s the most pragmatic option but have absolutely no say in how they’re made

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Everyone except those that keep their money in the British offshore banking system, the real reason behind Brexit as Eu banking regs would have been a big problem. It is estimated that half of the worlds wealth resides in the British offshore banks.

Would you happen to know anything one can read about this? Sounds interesting.

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Can somebody from the UK confirm? It's been a hugely divisive topic from what I've gathered in the last years. Are things on average worse, or the same, or better?

Those who are anti-Brexit are loving it as they are blaming EVERYTHING caused by Ukraine war and gas prices inflation on Brexit. They are just as much the liars as the Brexitiers they accuse of being so. Some of them will in fact will be reading this and being in glee and loving how much Putin's invasion has helped them.

Re: 'We're all worse off': Britain is now paying the price to leave the EU

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post #15
post #4

Can somebody from the UK confirm? It's been a hugely divisive topic from what I've gathered in the last years. Are things on average worse, or the same, or better?

Those who are anti-Brexit are loving it as they are blaming EVERYTHING caused by Ukraine war and gas prices inflation on Brexit. They are just as much the liars as the Brexitiers they accuse of being so. Some of them will in fact will be reading this and being in glee and loving how much Putin's invasion has helped them.

What do you think the real reason is?

Re: 'We're all worse off': Britain is now paying the price to leave the EU

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post #11
post #4

Can somebody from the UK confirm? It's been a hugely divisive topic from what I've gathered in the last years. Are things on average worse, or the same, or better?

Worse, much worse - but it's still unclear how much of that can be chalked up to Brexit vs. the war vs. corona. It was hugely divisive between 2016-2019 but once it dropped off the media's radar people mostly stopped talking about it (before corona).

So it's no longer divisive, as in, there's now a public consensus whether Brexit was good or bad?

Or it's no longer divisive, as in, nobody has a clue anymore because too many things happened and nobody can follow the trail of economic hardship?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Corona, plus the war. Really, really hard to disentangle.

Yes, that too. So we basically have issues with imports, less foreign labour, a ridiculous tax burden and an energy crisis. At the same time.

I guess one way to compare would be how did the rest of EU do vs Britain? If everyone did poorly Brexit had no measurable effect.

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post #4

Can somebody from the UK confirm? It's been a hugely divisive topic from what I've gathered in the last years. Are things on average worse, or the same, or better?

Can’t think of anything that’s better

Yikes, that seriously sounds alarming. Sorry to hear.

Re: 'We're all worse off': Britain is now paying the price to leave the EU

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post #14

Everyone except those that keep their money in the British offshore banking system, the real reason behind Brexit as Eu banking regs would have been a big problem. It is estimated that half of the worlds wealth resides in the British offshore banks.

Would you happen to know anything one can read about this? Sounds interesting.

I guess this is the banal reason why most conspiracy theories take off. They "sound interesting".
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