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The Missing App Economy (2022)
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Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#12I recommend spending some time on OnlyFans to see what social networks can look like without the App Store. Video fundraisers, paid messages, creator subscriptions, tips, interactive live streams and tiered subscriptions all work together to allow creators to flourish financially. Apple’s 30% rules cripples YouTube’s ability to imitate these features and even restricts the viability of these features for platforms li…
Nearly everything in that space comes with a sea of confounding factors; biological imperative is fickle thing. I find it akin to gambling, in that folks with impulse control disorder are most susceptible to making rash and often ill-advised decisions.
Point I'm trying make is you can't sensibly extrapolate lessons from there and apply them to a different space. Sadly. Because it is an absolute cashcow and I reckon it probably makes for like a quarter of Stripe's income.
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’d say Safari is not bad at all on an iPad. I remember a lot of people carping because of bad ideas from PWAs not being implemented (spam spamifications, half-baked rube goldberg schemes that accomplish half of what Netscape Netcaster did back in the day…) but really all the real web apps and even demos like visualization of NeRF models work on my iPad.
> spam spamifications As much as I dislike notifications, they're becoming a necessity in a world of decommoditized email. If I could know that my mail would actually get through when I send it to a willing recipient (as opposed to the almighty Google System Lords deciding that my mail should be dropped because their chicken entrails said it looked like spam that day) then there'd be no need to reinvent email as noti…
One of the drivers for email newsletters, ironically, is that bloggers don't trust Google to send visitors their way repeatedly, so they harass their users incessantly hoping to bypass the Google search monopoly although this runs headlong into the Google email monopoly.
To be fair though I remember working for firms that were struggling mightily to deliver mail to AOL in 2005.
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#14I recommend spending some time on OnlyFans to see what social networks can look like without the App Store. Video fundraisers, paid messages, creator subscriptions, tips, interactive live streams and tiered subscriptions all work together to allow creators to flourish financially. Apple’s 30% rules cripples YouTube’s ability to imitate these features and even restricts the viability of these features for platforms li…
Nearly everything in that space comes with a sea of confounding factors; biological imperative is fickle thing. I find it akin to gambling, in that folks with impulse control disorder are most susceptible to making rash and often ill-advised decisions. Point I'm trying make is you can't sensibly extrapolate lessons from there and apply them to a different space. Sadly. Because it is an absolute cashcow and I reckon i…
Social interaction can be just as much of a biological imperative as reproduction.
I bet many people would be willing to pay $500 for a FaceTime call with MrBeast. Or pay $50 to choose which makeup their vlogger tries on. Maybe even $100 for their favourite comedian to make a joke about them.
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#15One of the biggest problems for "apps" and entrepreneurs is distribution. Everything this article is talking about was true when HTML5 launched (2010 era) and so many mobile device APIs became web standards.
What the App store has, that is hard to reproduce, is distribution.
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nearly everything in that space comes with a sea of confounding factors; biological imperative is fickle thing. I find it akin to gambling, in that folks with impulse control disorder are most susceptible to making rash and often ill-advised decisions. Point I'm trying make is you can't sensibly extrapolate lessons from there and apply them to a different space. Sadly. Because it is an absolute cashcow and I reckon i…
Social interaction can be just as much of a biological imperative as reproduction. I bet many people would be willing to pay $500 for a FaceTime call with MrBeast. Or pay $50 to choose which makeup their vlogger tries on. Maybe even $100 for their favourite comedian to make a joke about them.
What you're describing is parasocial interaction, not social interaction.
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#17Honestly I prefer a native app to a web app because the web browser is basically an O/S running inside an O/S and there's a annoying amount of gain mismatch / poor coupling between the two. Native (non electron) apps on the Mac just integrate with the other OS capabilities (e.g. text selection, drag/drop all work consistently and interoperate properly; keystrokes, shortcuts, system context menu & integrations, etc just make using the machine smoother. This is also true under iOS.
I don't like apps that are just a wrapper to a web view, but they do protect in one way: if you fumblefinger when entering an address in the browser it can autocomplete to a phisher, while my bank's app is in a known place on my screen.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nearly everything in that space comes with a sea of confounding factors; biological imperative is fickle thing. I find it akin to gambling, in that folks with impulse control disorder are most susceptible to making rash and often ill-advised decisions. Point I'm trying make is you can't sensibly extrapolate lessons from there and apply them to a different space. Sadly. Because it is an absolute cashcow and I reckon i…
Social interaction can be just as much of a biological imperative as reproduction. I bet many people would be willing to pay $500 for a FaceTime call with MrBeast. Or pay $50 to choose which makeup their vlogger tries on. Maybe even $100 for their favourite comedian to make a joke about them.
One person was willing to pay a lot more: https://www.essentiallysports.com/esports-news-mrbeast-recal...
I was initially horrified when I read it first but then realised it would be like someone with $100k paying out $25 for a birthday present.
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#19I recommend spending some time on OnlyFans to see what social networks can look like without the App Store. Video fundraisers, paid messages, creator subscriptions, tips, interactive live streams and tiered subscriptions all work together to allow creators to flourish financially. Apple’s 30% rules cripples YouTube’s ability to imitate these features and even restricts the viability of these features for platforms li…
> Video fundraisers, paid messages, creator subscriptions, tips, interactive live streams and tiered subscriptions
As a user, that doesn’t sound great to be honest.
Re: The Missing App Economy (2022)
#20One of the biggest problems for "apps" and entrepreneurs is distribution. Everything this article is talking about was true when HTML5 launched (2010 era) and so many mobile device APIs became web standards. What the App store has, that is hard to reproduce, is distribution.
The web already cracked the distribution problem.
Javascript on the browser was the only choice for your frontend code, however, WASM is already shipping on all current browsers except IE and Opera Mini (which is a miniscule percentage of browsers in use today).
It is just a matter of time where WASM becomes the ABI of choice for crossplatform app development as the binary deployment vehicle where you can program in any language and have the app delivered as a WASM package via HTTP/HTTPS.
Apple's App Store moat will dry up when people (esp. devs) realize that they can get close to native performance for web apps delivered this way and the vanity of an icon on the phone/tablet screen isn't worth forking 30% to big apple.