why?, .net vb is free
.net vb is a completely different language with a completely different set of capabilities. It can't compile VB6 code. There is a lot of legacy VB6 code out there.
TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
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Re: TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
#12EndBASIC is a free implementation that is written in Rust. It's more focused on the DOS based BASICs than VB-styled ones.
Re: TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
#13Non-starter. BASIC fans are hobbyists and won’t pay $35 a month. Professional devs already have better tools and won’t touch it.
FreeBASIC is excellent and in general your good old QB codes should run on modern OSes.
No official MacOS support, though. Only Windows, Linux, and DOS.
Re: TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
#14EndBASIC is a free implementation that is written in Rust. It's more focused on the DOS based BASICs than VB-styled ones. https://www.endbasic.dev/
Thanks for bringing this up!
I (author of EndBASIC) have been busy with other stuff since this made the front page last time and have not had a chance to touch the project for the last few months, but I do still have plans to grow it.
Just earlier today, and out of coincidence, I added "email subscriptions" to the front page of the project -- just in case any of you want to get notified when a new release comes out :) If you /do/ subscribe, you may get... 2-3 emails a year, and help me gather how many people actually care about this.
Re: TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
#15Non-starter. BASIC fans are hobbyists and won’t pay $35 a month. Professional devs already have better tools and won’t touch it.
Powerbasic is $175/year for everything I think.
Purebasic is like $79 for life.
Re: TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
#16BBC BASIC is still available and maintained by one of its original developers, an astonishing record. https://www.bbcbasic.co.uk/index.html The Windows version is a £25 purchase, but the SDL and command-line versions are gratis. It's a great language for hacking around on a Raspberry Pi.
Not going to lie. This is awesome. You can even run on android.
Re: TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
#17BBC BASIC is still available and maintained by one of its original developers, an astonishing record. https://www.bbcbasic.co.uk/index.html The Windows version is a £25 purchase, but the SDL and command-line versions are gratis. It's a great language for hacking around on a Raspberry Pi.
Is there anything quite tied/geared to the internals of the system for rasp pi in the same manner as say C64 Basic was? Or does that sort of concern not really matter for today’s CPUs/hardware/aarch?
I’m not really a programmer. The reason I ask is for my 11 yr old to hack around, should I find/use a modern (or if not modern, updated, as you indicated BBC is) Basic like the one you linked, or should I have the kid just do cool stuff and basic stuff inside a C64 emulator on the Pi such as Combian64 etc?
Re: TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
#18As i mentioned in the other thread about VB6, this is not the only attempt and there have been several at the past, going back to when Microsoft was still working on classic VB (the oldest i know of is a VB4 clone) - and all of them had something common: they were not open source and because of that they died. IMO it is the biggest of follies to consider a proprietary classic VB clone considering that the only reason…
I remember VB was also a bit of a casualty of the move to the .NET framework. Yeah they had later versions of VB with .NET support but it still never really embraced or thrived in the new ecosystem. In general RAD tooling kind of fell out of favor in the 2000s and never really recovered.
Re: TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
#19Non-starter. BASIC fans are hobbyists and won’t pay $35 a month. Professional devs already have better tools and won’t touch it.
FreeBASIC is excellent and in general your good old QB codes should run on modern OSes. No official MacOS support, though. Only Windows, Linux, and DOS.
There's also Gambas for the almost VB needs.
Re: TwinBASIC is a modern BASIC compiler
#20BBC BASIC is still available and maintained by one of its original developers, an astonishing record. https://www.bbcbasic.co.uk/index.html The Windows version is a £25 purchase, but the SDL and command-line versions are gratis. It's a great language for hacking around on a Raspberry Pi.
Is there anything quite tied/geared to the internals of the system for rasp pi in the same manner as say C64 Basic was? Or does that sort of concern not really matter for today’s CPUs/hardware/aarch? I’m not really a programmer. The reason I ask is for my 11 yr old to hack around, should I find/use a modern (or if not modern, updated, as you indicated BBC is) Basic like the one you linked, or should I have the kid ju…
It's a really hard question. The program is not anywhere as close to the hardware as the original would have been, but is it the right place to start? I think you may want to offer a variety of things and see which is the most interesting.
Personally I'd love to have a nice 386 with some hardware to play around with, but then again, that's what I learned on.