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Activists face felonies for distributing flyers on “Cop City” protester killing

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Re: Activists face felonies for distributing flyers on “Cop City” protester killing

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Post by courseofaction »

gruez wrote: post #6

>The flyer, according to the lawyer, named a police officer who lives in the area where the activists were arrested and alleged he was connected to the killing in January of forest defender Manuel “Tortuguita” Terán during a multi-agency raid on the Atlanta Forest protest encampment. >[...] According to public records, one of the officers named lives in the area where the activists posted flyers. [...] Sounds like th…

The cop's name is in the coroner's report. Days of solitary confinement and denial of bail for a non-violent crime... this is clearly retaliation.

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Post by DoItToMe81 »

firstlink wrote: post #12

No bail and solitary confinement as extralegal punishment has been the norm for J6 protestors for over two years now, but no one on HN gives a shit. Now it's happening to people on the left, and suddenly pearls are clutched.

HN is not one person. I gave a shit when it was in Guantanamo, I gave a shit when it was with OWS protestors, I definitely gave a shit when people who peacefully occupied a building were called "insurrectionists" as though they were going to be charged with treason, and I've seen plenty of other people here give a shit in all these cases, too.

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Post by 58028641 »

firstlink wrote: post #12

No bail and solitary confinement as extralegal punishment has been the norm for J6 protestors for over two years now, but no one on HN gives a shit. Now it's happening to people on the left, and suddenly pearls are clutched.

Comparing Jan 6th to this is ludicrous. There is a difference between insurrection and protests.

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Post by DanHulton »

DoItToMe81 wrote: post #13
firstlink wrote: post #12

No bail and solitary confinement as extralegal punishment has been the norm for J6 protestors for over two years now, but no one on HN gives a shit. Now it's happening to people on the left, and suddenly pearls are clutched.

HN is not one person. I gave a shit when it was in Guantanamo, I gave a shit when it was with OWS protestors, I definitely gave a shit when people who peacefully occupied a building were called "insurrectionists" as though they were going to be charged with treason, and I've seen plenty of other people here give a shit in all these cases, too.

"Peacefully" is -- if I'm being extremely generous -- debatable, and "a building" is doing a whole lot of lifting.

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Post by watwut »

runlaszlorun wrote: post #14
midoridensha wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is much more similar to Russia and China than most Americans realize.

Is it?

No it is not. It has different unique issues with cops lawlessness and abuse of power.

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Post by watwut »

firstlink wrote: post #12

No bail and solitary confinement as extralegal punishment has been the norm for J6 protestors for over two years now, but no one on HN gives a shit. Now it's happening to people on the left, and suddenly pearls are clutched.

J6 protesters were treated better then average typical defendants. This are treated worst.

These exercised free speech and attempted to inform public about dangerous cops. J6 protests were violent, invaded capitol and attempted to reverse election. They were not imprisoned in their preparatory phase.

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Post by watwut »

DoItToMe81 wrote: post #13
firstlink wrote: post #12

No bail and solitary confinement as extralegal punishment has been the norm for J6 protestors for over two years now, but no one on HN gives a shit. Now it's happening to people on the left, and suddenly pearls are clutched.

HN is not one person. I gave a shit when it was in Guantanamo, I gave a shit when it was with OWS protestors, I definitely gave a shit when people who peacefully occupied a building were called "insurrectionists" as though they were going to be charged with treason, and I've seen plenty of other people here give a shit in all these cases, too.

It was not peaceful.

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Post by midoridensha »

watwut wrote: post #17
runlaszlorun wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it?

No it is not. It has different unique issues with cops lawlessness and abuse of power.

They're different, but not that much. In all 3, the cops are definitely NOT working for the citizens, they're working for the people in power and oppressing and brutalizing the citizens. The root causes are a little different, and the targeted groups are a little different, but overall it's pretty similar. In civilized countries, the cops mostly work for the citizens, to keep the peace, and don't brutalize and murder people with impunity.

I'd say one big difference is who the people in power are, that the cops are working for: in China/Russia, it's the dictator. In the US, it's really for themselves, and whatever corrupt local leaders they're friends with. In the US, law enforcement really resembles organized crime.

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