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Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Political optics over substance: neither the people summoned nor the people summoning understand what AI is.

Who would be the attendants at your dream summit on AI safety?

Public policy needs to involve decisionmakers. You can't just hand society to the engineers. Imagine your boss and hierarchy being empowered to decide for everyone.

Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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> "expectation that companies like yours must make sure their products are safe before making them available to the public." Lets make a guess, they are going to say its dangerous and we need regulation to prevent competitio---terorrism. Here is what you need to do instead, get some smart people from various agencies that are trustworthy, have them use the openAI playground and see what can be accomplished. Then show…

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Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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> "expectation that companies like yours must make sure their products are safe before making them available to the public." Lets make a guess, they are going to say its dangerous and we need regulation to prevent competitio---terorrism. Here is what you need to do instead, get some smart people from various agencies that are trustworthy, have them use the openAI playground and see what can be accomplished. Then show…

1A makes regulating software basically impossible. I can’t imagine what additionally regulation they think they’re going to implement that will survive the judiciary. The only legal barrier I can see that could influence these AI services is that that their output is obviously not shielded from liability by Section 230. But that will play out in the civil courts, if at all.

I’d say the more likely outcome is the far more subversive scenario where the government simply pressures private organisations into doing its unconstitutional bidding

Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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> "expectation that companies like yours must make sure their products are safe before making them available to the public." Lets make a guess, they are going to say its dangerous and we need regulation to prevent competitio---terorrism. Here is what you need to do instead, get some smart people from various agencies that are trustworthy, have them use the openAI playground and see what can be accomplished. Then show…

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Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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post #11
post #7

Political optics over substance: neither the people summoned nor the people summoning understand what AI is.

Who would be the attendants at your dream summit on AI safety? Public policy needs to involve decisionmakers. You can't just hand society to the engineers. Imagine your boss and hierarchy being empowered to decide for everyone.

Who is the James Webb of our times? Let's empower that person to the ultramaxpro.

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"In early May 1945, Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson, with the approval of President Harry S. Truman, formed an Interim Committee of top officials charged with recommending the proper use of atomic weapons in wartime and developing a position for the United States on postwar atomic policy. Stimson headed the advisory group composed of Vannevar Bush, James Conant, Karl T. Compton, Under Secretary of the Navy Ralph A. Bard, Assistant Secretary of State William L. Clayton, and future Secretary of State James F. Byrnes. Robert Oppenheimer, Enrico Fermi, Arthur Compton, and Ernest Lawrence served as scientific advisors (the Scientific Panel), while General George Marshall represented the military. The committee met on May 31 and then again the next day with leaders from the business side of the Manhattan Project, including Walter S. Carpenter of DuPont, James C. White of Tennessee Eastman, George H. Bucher of Westinghouse, and James A. Rafferty of Union Carbide."

Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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The real risk of AI actually is related to that, IMO. Vinod Khosla estimated in an event a few weeks ago that 80% of human jobs will be automated in the next 10-20 years. We’re going to be living in an era of extreme abundance, which in theory could lead to an absolute human utopia.

The reality is that our society as it is currently run requires everyone to work in some capacity to earn a living. We’re about to hit a point where that simply is not feasible, because the majority of the jobs are going to be automated.

Teaching jobs are on their way out likely aren’t coming back. But with them are going to go most white collar jobs generally, and most blue collar jobs, and before too long self driving will be figured out, and then transportation jobs are gone too.

I hope that this meeting is focused around the changes we need to make societally to use this abundance for good, but I know how the slim the chances are of them talking about that, and how even more slim they are that they come up with a solution.

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