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Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by f_devd »

reacharavindh wrote: post #5

I’ll wait to see if they have proper “sleep” mode such that they don’t keep draining batter while not in use, particularly when running Linux. This is something that baffles me about non Apple Laptops how they just refuse to catch up to such a great benefit.. (alongside the trackpad experience which I can may be live with).

It might be a bit of tinkering but you can enable suspend-then-hibernate with logind/systemd which gives you a similar setup to Macbooks but slightly slower to wake from deep sleep as it needs to go through post/grub again. With the bigger battery provide and new CPU I do hope it lasts longer when idle though.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by javier2 »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #10

> If you're upgrading your Framework Laptop to the new Mainboard, remember that you'll need DDR5 SO-DIMMs up to DDR5-5600, along with a Ryzen-compatible RZ616 or similar WiFi card. What's a "Ryzen-compatible" WiFi card?

It could be a way to avoid saying Intel wifi card?

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by f_devd »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #10

> If you're upgrading your Framework Laptop to the new Mainboard, remember that you'll need DDR5 SO-DIMMs up to DDR5-5600, along with a Ryzen-compatible RZ616 or similar WiFi card. What's a "Ryzen-compatible" WiFi card?

Seems to be just WiFi M.2 cards developed by MediaTek in collaboration of AMD[0], I guess the benefit would be additional verification/optimization.

[0]: https://www.amd.com/en/press-releases/2021-11-18-amd-and-med...

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by goosedragons »

jaegrqualm wrote: post #4
Laaas wrote: post #2

I still hope to see a non-x86 version. The less bloat the better.

Is there any reasonable Linux support for a laptop with ARM right now? Asahi and Apple are one thing, but qualcomm's offerings haven't looked enticing at all.

Pinebook Pro count? There's also some support for the Thinkpad X13s Snapdragon.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by Bairfhionn »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #10

> If you're upgrading your Framework Laptop to the new Mainboard, remember that you'll need DDR5 SO-DIMMs up to DDR5-5600, along with a Ryzen-compatible RZ616 or similar WiFi card. What's a "Ryzen-compatible" WiFi card?

I think it means "Don't use an Intel AX201 Wifi Card because that needs an Intel CPU" without mentioning Intel.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by consp »

reacharavindh wrote: post #5

I’ll wait to see if they have proper “sleep” mode such that they don’t keep draining batter while not in use, particularly when running Linux. This is something that baffles me about non Apple Laptops how they just refuse to catch up to such a great benefit.. (alongside the trackpad experience which I can may be live with).

Many laptops these days only implement s2idle and no proper s3 support which is the main culprit. My lenovo only does a day (at best) in s2idle under linux (windows is worse), when I switched it to s3 it does about 4 days as expected for the amd cpu. Fortunately this has a switch in the bios (which says windows won't work afterwards which is cow manure). You get the added benefit that windows can't phone home when you close the lid.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by jjice »

I've been waiting for this machine for so long, excited to see the actual CPU unveil. I may be out of date, but is the issue with not entering sleep mode properly resolved? That's a huge issue to me.

Aside from Framework, does anyone suggest any other existing laptops that keep a fairly slim design while also offering lots of user repairability? I've had an okay experience with my Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 3, but she's getting old, especially now that everything depends on video transcoding that it doesn't support at the hardware level.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by tekla »

column wrote: post #7

I am puzzled by the lack of keyboard layouts for Switzerland (we have the cash to spend on such novelties!). Also, no DVORAK? Is this for hackers or not? French Canadian $99 English International $99 German $99 US English $99 French $99 British English $99 Clear ANSI $109 Blank ANSI $109 Black ISO $109 Clear ISO $109

The Laptop is devoted to hackers, not hipsters.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by barrkel »

column wrote: post #7

I am puzzled by the lack of keyboard layouts for Switzerland (we have the cash to spend on such novelties!). Also, no DVORAK? Is this for hackers or not? French Canadian $99 English International $99 German $99 US English $99 French $99 British English $99 Clear ANSI $109 Blank ANSI $109 Black ISO $109 Clear ISO $109

I use blank keycaps on my mechanical keyboard for my Dvorak layout: https://www.keyboardco.com/product/blank-black-filco-104-key...

I also don't see the point of printing Dvorak layout. You use Dvorak to speed up your touch typing, and reduce fatigue.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by segasaturn »

Bairfhionn wrote: post #15
laweijfmvo wrote: post #10

> If you're upgrading your Framework Laptop to the new Mainboard, remember that you'll need DDR5 SO-DIMMs up to DDR5-5600, along with a Ryzen-compatible RZ616 or similar WiFi card. What's a "Ryzen-compatible" WiFi card?

I think it means "Don't use an Intel AX201 Wifi Card because that needs an Intel CPU" without mentioning Intel.

I've used Intel AX cards on Ryzen (desktop) boards and it worked fine, you just need to install drivers via Windows Update.
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