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Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week

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Re: Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week

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Post by jhancock »

nickmerwin wrote: post #4

For the rails kids, we have Bort ( http://github.com/fudgestudios/bort/tree/master )

for the merb grown-ups, merb 1.0 now has a well factored authentication framework. The docs/howtos are still a little rough, but I've just gone through migrating my existing app which had mature hand-rolled User model, session management, and registration process. With the new merb auth code, I've just dropped quite a bit of code.

also +1 for Blueprint CSS as well. This finally got me out of CSS hell.

Re: Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week

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Post by nocivus »

durdn wrote: post #9
tdavis wrote: post #5

As cool and useful as Pinax is, calling it "well documented" isn't entirely accurate considering the fact that there is barely any documentation to speak of.

Yep, that was a bit overenthusiastic of me. But I noticed they are improving the documentation fast. It is a very young project after all. Maybe I could rephrase "well documented" in: given the clarity and the good structure of the code I did not have problems finding my way around.

I agree. It's not that it's extensively documented; it's that the code is easy enough to hack to one's needs ;)

Re: Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week

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Post by truebosko »

What's everyones take on using something like Pinax where a lot of things are done and bundled up for you?

I've never been a huge fan of this approach. I like Django because it removes some of the annoying parts of creating a web app, but I don't like when the user registration, commenting, profiles, avatars, and more site-specific functionality like "groups/message boards" are pre-built for me

Re: Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week

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Post by lliiffee »

I really shouldn't nitpick-- particularly on something thrown together in a week by one person-- but I can't resist: I bet you'd double the fraction of people looking at the site who actually build a list if it lets you start building a list before signing up. After I've built one you can remind me that I should sign up if I want to keep it.

Its much better to let people get their feet wet with out jumping through the hoop of a sign-up.

Re: Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week

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Post by durdn »

truebosko wrote: post #14

What's everyones take on using something like Pinax where a lot of things are done and bundled up for you? I've never been a huge fan of this approach. I like Django because it removes some of the annoying parts of creating a web app, but I don't like when the user registration, commenting, profiles, avatars, and more site-specific functionality like "groups/message boards" are pre-built for me

Recently pinax added a basic_project in addition to a complete_project.

In the basic project fewer things are provided, like registration with openid support and email validation. In addition there's a structure to create your menus and submenus.

So far I found it a very good starting point for my development and not obtrusive at all.

Re: Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week

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Post by durdn »

lliiffee wrote: post #15

I really shouldn't nitpick-- particularly on something thrown together in a week by one person-- but I can't resist: I bet you'd double the fraction of people looking at the site who actually build a list if it lets you start building a list before signing up. After I've built one you can remind me that I should sign up if I want to keep it. Its much better to let people get their feet wet with out jumping through th…

Ah totally cool suggestion, thanks. And easily doable with anonymous sessions. Will note it down.
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