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Re: Storage on Vercel

#11
Will this be available for Python, too? The example code is all JavaScript, but presumably this uses APIs under the hood that could be called by other languages.

I've been a happy user of Python on Vercel for years, but I often feel like languages other than JavaScript are very poorly represented, both in the community and the documentation.

My notes on running Python on Vercel: https://til.simonwillison.net/zeit-now/python-asgi-on-now-v2

Re: Storage on Vercel

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Vercel is the second company to “eat the cloud from outside in”. ( https://www.swyx.io/cloudflare-go ) its now my defacto playbook for building lasting bottom up disruptive cloud companies. start by giving away an extremely good free tier (cloudflare - cdn, vercel - nextjs+hosting) then add build time compute, run time compute, readonly kv store, and now full read write storage. (this is part of an overall cloud prog…

Cloudflare own and run the services they’re offering whereas it looks like Vercal storage is just other people’s services rebranded

Users don't care about that.

Re: Storage on Vercel

#13
post #11

Will this be available for Python, too? The example code is all JavaScript, but presumably this uses APIs under the hood that could be called by other languages. I've been a happy user of Python on Vercel for years, but I often feel like languages other than JavaScript are very poorly represented, both in the community and the documentation. My notes on running Python on Vercel: https://til.simonwillison.net/zeit-now…

Yes! Any postgres and redis client will just work. And the blob store has a REST API.

Re: Storage on Vercel

#15
post #7

Cloud to me is overpriced and not transparent. Example, with Upstash redis: i deployed a fly.io connected to upstash. I don't use that service for a month (no query at all), but it still counted in billing. Wait, is upstash real serverless ? I have to pay for NOT using it ?

Usage-based pricing in the cloud is a blessing and a curse. To take best advantage of it you need a third party tool. At least, this is the thesis behind my current employer (https://vantage.sh).

Re: Storage on Vercel

#16
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare own and run the services they’re offering whereas it looks like Vercal storage is just other people’s services rebranded

Users don't care about that.

Generally, that is very true. But when the bills start hitting, users absolutely do care and will go out of their way to avoid it.

Re: Storage on Vercel

#17
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Users don't care about that.

Generally, that is very true. But when the bills start hitting, users absolutely do care and will go out of their way to avoid it.

Only when it reaches ridiculous enough number. Even as an individual who can easily do any cloud/k8s/lambdas/firecracker, I am paying Vercel a few hundred for my side projects.

Re: Storage on Vercel

#18
post #7

Cloud to me is overpriced and not transparent. Example, with Upstash redis: i deployed a fly.io connected to upstash. I don't use that service for a month (no query at all), but it still counted in billing. Wait, is upstash real serverless ? I have to pay for NOT using it ?

Upstash on Fly.io is not serverless. You provision the RAM + connection counts you want, and then pay for that capacity.

This is not what all our customers want, but it is much cheaper to run this way for most fullstack frameworks. It's not ideal for a Redis you don't use at all, though.

We're considering a serverless / metered billing option for this. But what we have is much closer to spinning up a permanent Redis. :)

Re: Storage on Vercel

#19
A very natural step for Vercel. Not having a prescribed statefulness/storage solution has been a pain since they've pivoted into strictly serverless.

Re: Storage on Vercel

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Cloudflare's R2 costs $0.36 per million read operations (after the 10 million you get for free) [1]. Vercel is wrapping R2 and is charging $2 per million reads [2]. They're also charging $0.15/GB for egress (after the 1GB you get free), when R2 charges nothing, and the storage cost is doubled from $0.015/GB on R2 to $0.03/GB on Vercel. That's quite the cost increase for the DX improvement. [1] https://developers.clou…

This isn't finalized yet, apologies for the confusion. We'll be updating the pricing for Blob shortly (it's in private beta and invite only). The pricing for KV and Postgres is up to date.

I already lean away from S3/Azureblob/etc because their egress prices are terrible. .15/GB is borderline criminal.
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