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Cops, firefighters bewildered as driverless cars behave badly

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Re: Cops, firefighters bewildered as driverless cars behave badly

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Are self driving cars going to be the same as all the big platforms? If you're a platform, making it impossible to contact a human when your account has been wrongfully disabled / blacklisted is pretty much the de facto standard for support, as users are a cost that has to be minimized "at scale". What happens when self driving car peddlers decide that having access to human oversight is not viable "at scale"?

Re: Cops, firefighters bewildered as driverless cars behave badly

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> US solution - equip all emergency services with anti-materiel rifles Yes.

Or how about some sort of "bang sticks" that flatten tires.

Spike strips are far more practical and purpose-specific.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_strip>

Re: Cops, firefighters bewildered as driverless cars behave badly

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Human lives are at stake and all Cruise can recommend is "call the hotline and we'll send someone out to move the vehicle" otherwise you're cutting it open. Can they guarantee someone will be out there in minutes or hours? I hope firefighters just adopt a standard of "If we see a cruise vehicle heading towards an active call, smash the windshield and ask questions later." Can Cruise not tap into some system that firs…

As a first responder, there are dispatch systems that can forward data like that to outside systems. The issue is that the dispatch systems aren't unified - in Kansas, for example, every county has it's own dispatch system set up it's own way, not tied to the others.

The issue is that the dispatch systems aren't unified - in Kansas, for example, every county has it's own dispatch system set up it's own way, not tied to the others.

Agreed. And it can be even worse than that. At one time, my county (Brunswick County, NC) had three separate dispatch centers: the primary county 911 center, then a Southport specific dispatch center, and then a Long Beach specific center. And none of the agencies involved had any kind of integration of their systems (radio or CAD, etc).

That has improved somewhat now (everybody is dispatched by one center now, and everybody uses the NC VIPER radio system) but the point remains that most dispatch centers aren't integrated with each other. The CAD system for one county doesn't "know about" incidents happening in neighboring counties, or anything. They are generally almost completely isolated islands, with the primary means of interop being telephone calls from one center to another to request mutual aid or EMS move-ups, etc.

So yeah, expect it to be a while before there's any meaningful integration that can be expanded to include private companies or other 3rd parties, when the dispatch centers barely have any interop between each other.

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