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Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

#11

Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

I feel the same way. It seems like it doesn’t even try to solve most of the hardest problems for decentralization. I too find it weird, but it is fun to play with.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

#12

Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

How did you use it? The default setting is anonymous unless you reveal who you are.

After I muted a small number of people and used some paid relays I don’t see spam or bad content.

Coolest feature is that you can switch clients while keeping the same relays and all your data stays with you.

Plus a bunch of clients have this auto translate feature so people are talking to each other regardless of the language they speak. I started following some people in other languages - very unique social media experience.

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#13
post #5

Author of damus[1] here. We’ve seen a crazy growth in nostr in the past couple of months. Damus itself sees about 1000 to 10,000 download per week, and we’re up to about 500k to 1mil+ users (hard to get exact numbers on a decentralized network). Exciting times for social networking protocols! [1] https://damus.io

I love Damus and Nostr. Thanks and please keep up the good work.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

#15
Nostr user here, absolutely love everything I am seeing. I think Nostr is deeply misunderstood by onlookers and I'd like to share a few things that may help clear things up:

1. Nostr is not a social network - it's a protocol on top of many social networks can be built. 2. Nostr is not limited to the social use cases - and I think that is the killer advantage here. With Nostr, you can integrate various other types of apps to facilitate not only chat but content distribution AND payments. One click payments with zaps. 3. Zaps are going to open up a floodgate of use cases that have a significant advantage over legacy ways of doing things. For example: if you have a music app with multiple recording artists, any time someone zaps or streams their song, all artists involved could get paid instantly. 4. Nostr is a discovery powerhouse that enables content to be easily discovered across platforms without gatekeeping. For creators this is great news because they can just publish in one place and be in all (willingly) participating clients/apps. This alone is a huge development that I don't think too many are grasping just yet.

Yes, it is still clunky at times, but the UX and UI is getting better over time. The development model makes it easy for anyone to jump in and build. You are not limited to any particular way of doing things and can create a custom experience for your audience while having access to the entirety of the protocol.

Some resources for people:

- https://www.heynostr.com/ - https://www.nostrapps.com/

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

#16
Calling Nostr a social network to me seems like a category error. It's a messaging protocol. People might build a social network on top of it, but it's not necessarily going to have any of the properties Nostr has, the same way Facebook is built on top of html.

If you want to solve social issues at a protocol level, there need to be social mechanisms in the protocol. That would honestly be kind of interesting to see. But Nostr is just a reinvented networking stack.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

#17

Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

There's little spam at the moment. There will be. But at that time the relays (pieces of server software that relay nostr messages) can step in and implement spam control via whatever they see fit. Perhaps some smart filtering, perhaps pay a few sats to have a message relayed or perhaps some real name policy. Clients can pick a (set of) relay(s) which fit their preference best. Or not, and accept the default.

The protocol is surprisingly simple to read [1], many relays and clients exist already.

I exchanged messages with a friend of mine who was using a very different client and it just worked!

Personally I like the fact that you can 'like' posts by sending a couple of sats via Lightning. I think it is a great motivator to write thoughtful, quality content.

Currently nostr is radical, weird and unpolished. The Amethyst client is slow at times. But the pace of development is incredible.

[1] https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/01.md

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

#18

Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

> Why the hype?

Jack Dorsey is a co-founder, that's it. I feel like "nostr.com" has been showing up on the HN front page, with no context, at least once every week.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

#19

Calling Nostr a social network to me seems like a category error. It's a messaging protocol. People might build a social network on top of it, but it's not necessarily going to have any of the properties Nostr has, the same way Facebook is built on top of html. If you want to solve social issues at a protocol level, there need to be social mechanisms in the protocol. That would honestly be kind of interesting to see.…

Seems like it's more than that considering they have mobile apps coming that are definitely social networks.
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