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Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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Do people still use Dropbox? I feel like I almost never hear recommendations for it. I personally abandoned Dropbox when they introduced a limit on the amount of devices you could use for free plans, and the cheapest plan was like 120€/year for 2 TB.

I still like it. Its vendor agnostic. I find the scanning documents ability works well on iOS. Not really sure what else I could be using to be honest.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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I'll be honest, I don't really see the complaint here. The telemetry goes to telemetry.dropbox.com. You get this telemetry because you have installed the Dropbox desktop app, which means Dropbox already has lots of access to your machine. If this telemetry just went back mixed with normal Dropbox communications (like most apps), would people even be aware of it? There doesn't seem to be any discussion of what the tel…

> I'll be honest, I don't really see the complaint here. There is no explicit consent.

Exactly, as a paying user having the option to disable telemetry is not unreasonable.

Too bad Dropbox does not see it that way.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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post #8

Do people still use Dropbox? I feel like I almost never hear recommendations for it. I personally abandoned Dropbox when they introduced a limit on the amount of devices you could use for free plans, and the cheapest plan was like 120€/year for 2 TB.

I haven’t found a better option for file sync (especially not delta sync)

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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post #8

Do people still use Dropbox? I feel like I almost never hear recommendations for it. I personally abandoned Dropbox when they introduced a limit on the amount of devices you could use for free plans, and the cheapest plan was like 120€/year for 2 TB.

> Do people still use Dropbox?

Yep but it's mostly because I have many things which integrate with it -- loads of IFTTT recipes, apps, and sites that automatically sync things for you. If iCloud had a public API that people could integrate with the same way, I'd probably drop Dropbox at some point.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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post #12

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> I'll be honest, I don't really see the complaint here. There is no explicit consent.

Exactly, as a paying user having the option to disable telemetry is not unreasonable. Too bad Dropbox does not see it that way.

Indeed, as a paying user I would also want an option to disable them reading the files off my disk.

To bad they just start scanning everything in ~/Dropbox.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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> I'll be honest, I don't really see the complaint here. There is no explicit consent.

Exactly, as a paying user having the option to disable telemetry is not unreasonable. Too bad Dropbox does not see it that way.

I see a trend of software engineers that don't see users as someone who they are providing service to - they see them as just one element of a machine they're optimizing to make their software better. They feel that the engineering quest itself is the most important thing in the world, so they feel entitled to any and all data they are technically capable of collecting.

It's a shame. I wish more engineers would see things through Richard Stallman's eyes, and realize that software is supposed to serve its users, not its creators. But, as the saying goes: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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> I'll be honest, I don't really see the complaint here. There is no explicit consent.

But dropbox already has huge amounts of information about you, in particular the names, contents, and history of all of your files.

They have consent for that. It's not hard.

Also consent to store does not imply consent to read, process, make use of.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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Many times on HN, commenters have mocked those who questioned why someone would use Dropbox instead of a method controlled by the user. I guess becausse someone made lots of money from it or it became popular or something. I always found this perplexing because I look at solutions from the perspective of the user, namely, me, not from the perspective of a third party "tech" startup founder. It's insensitive to the people on HN who want to other tried and true solutions. "Other people are using Dropbox, so you should too." Who cares. Every user is different. If someone wants to use something else besides Dropbox, why harass them. I could care less what "99%" of users are doing. I care about what I'm doing.

I confess I have never used it. I still rely on USB sticks for a variety of tasks, more than simply transferring files. Anyway, for me, this telemetry nonsense would be one reason I would avoid Dropbox.

Maybe there will someday be telemetry in USB sticks. We'll see. Meanwhile...

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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post #8

Do people still use Dropbox? I feel like I almost never hear recommendations for it. I personally abandoned Dropbox when they introduced a limit on the amount of devices you could use for free plans, and the cheapest plan was like 120€/year for 2 TB.

Indeed the price is my problem. I like the functionality of Dropbox but I don’t need 2TB and I won’t pay 12€ for that. I wish they have lower tiers.

iDrive is the only alternative I found that more or less works the same. Maybe Google Drive too but I try to avoid them (maybe if there was an option bundled with Youtube Premium...)

When I tried MS OneDrive messed up the file dates, Amazon CloudDrive did the same (and also got shutdown since). And Apple iCloud is just too barebones and not really meant for sharing if someone is not using a Mac.

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