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We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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> Some of the obvious risk factors include: > Is the email address a company domain or a consumer email like Gmail? Do you actually expect people to use their work email for personal purposes?

Mux is a video broadcast infrastructure provider, not a sports streaming web site. The vast majority of their users are expected to be businesses.

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Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

As I slowly grow crotchety and old I've really become fed up with the giant corps. I've taught dozens of both older and younger folk how to use a VPN and a torrent client. I've had one parent accuse me of teaching their teenager how to steal. I told them you're damn right, your kid is a sharp young woman and she is learning from the best.

Media companies like to claim that each act of piracy costs them huge sums of money. That isn't true, but I wish it was.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

#13
post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

> THE ONLY sports governing body that has figured this out (for sports I like, anyway), is F1.

No. The only ones who figured it out is the NFL. F1 shafted Germany after youg Schuhmacher came into F1 and German Sky bought exclusive rights.

The NFL? Intl Game Pass €190 per season live streams, instant repeats no adverts, various show, dedicated tv apps, no limit on number of devices, high def.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

> THE ONLY sports governing body that has figured this out (for sports I like, anyway), is F1. No. The only ones who figured it out is the NFL. F1 shafted Germany after youg Schuhmacher came into F1 and German Sky bought exclusive rights. The NFL? Intl Game Pass €190 per season live streams, instant repeats no adverts, various show, dedicated tv apps, no limit on number of devices, high def.

Ah, sorry then :-(

F1 is great in the US. I can't speak to NFL -- I don't watch it. However, I suspect it may be a better deal in Europe (where they are trying to get new fans) than in the US (where it's one of, if not "the", most popular sports).

This is similar to GCN+ for cycling. In the US, it doesn't get you much -- but from what I understand, in some (most?) European countries, GCN+ gets you most (if not all) UCI cycling evnets.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

> If you want to "stop pirates", make it easy for them to give you money and watch their favorite sport.

I don't disagree, but that isn't something Mux is in a position to do. They just provide video streaming infrastructure -- they're in no position to demand that various sports broadcast rightsholders change their policies.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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post #4

> Some of the obvious risk factors include: > Is the email address a company domain or a consumer email like Gmail? Do you actually expect people to use their work email for personal purposes?

I used to work in IT and one of my responsibilities was managing the company email and TONS of people used their work email for personal stuff. At least 1/3 of the company.

what do these people expect to happen if they change jobs and loose access to their accounts?

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

Yep, NHL blackouts are idiotic. Hard to imagine they are selling more arena tickets that way.

NHL blackouts (at least today’s NHL blackouts) are not for getting fans into arena seats. They exist because local cable broadcasts own the exclusive rights to broadcast games in local markets.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

> THE ONLY sports governing body that has figured this out (for sports I like, anyway), is F1. No. The only ones who figured it out is the NFL. F1 shafted Germany after youg Schuhmacher came into F1 and German Sky bought exclusive rights. The NFL? Intl Game Pass €190 per season live streams, instant repeats no adverts, various show, dedicated tv apps, no limit on number of devices, high def.

In the USA, there is no way to simply pay the NFL or even any other entity to stream every single game.

American football, ice hockey, baseball, basketball all have “black out” games and other bullshit, plus many times require a secondary subscription to a “TV” subscription, where you then have to hunt down which media provider is streaming the game.

I would rather save my time and just not watch sports. Only US soccer is decent because you can simply pay Apple and guarantee watch all the games.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work in IT and one of my responsibilities was managing the company email and TONS of people used their work email for personal stuff. At least 1/3 of the company.

what do these people expect to happen if they change jobs and loose access to their accounts?

Magic. No, seriously.
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