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Re: Google CEO Salary

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Post by roenxi »

I recall digg.com, way back when. It basically collapsed one day. Gone. Documented on Reddit [0].

Sundar's "failures" must be considered relative to the risk - he has the power to destroy Google completely in a matter of weeks with a bold and headstrong call. There are idiots out there who would do that for whatever reason (obvious threat in Silicon Valley - maybe the search results don't promote enough Diversity, Equity and Inclusion when someone searches for "buy an [thing]"). Sundar being a known quantity who won't do anything bold is quite possibly worth $200 million.

Bud Light has been in the headlines for the wrong reasons - it happens. Mobs of angry consumers get triggered for the weirdest things.

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxdqu/what_i...

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Post by pfannkuchen »

retrocryptid wrote: post #2

I like that someone said this, but I really Grit my teeth when someone says "learnings." I have no problem with using preferred pronouns or saying "chestfeeding" instead of "breastfeeding." I don't understand it, but if it's making you uncomfortable, I'm totally fine with changing that part of my vocabulary. But "ask" and "learn" are verbs. You "ask questions" or "make requests" and you "learn lessons." You do not "h…

I think the problem with “lesson” is that it sounds like you started out in the wrong. An important part of corpspeak is never directly accusing anyone of being wrong or directly admitting having been wrong yourself. Acquiring learnings does not have this connotation (possibly because it is a nonsense word).

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Post by germinalphrase »

retrocryptid wrote: post #2

I like that someone said this, but I really Grit my teeth when someone says "learnings." I have no problem with using preferred pronouns or saying "chestfeeding" instead of "breastfeeding." I don't understand it, but if it's making you uncomfortable, I'm totally fine with changing that part of my vocabulary. But "ask" and "learn" are verbs. You "ask questions" or "make requests" and you "learn lessons." You do not "h…

Making a noun from a verb is called nominalization. Old school writing guides would advise writers to generally avoid it.

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Post by riffraff »

xiphias2 wrote: post #4

None of these were bad ideas. Sundar can't execute because he doesn't know how to do programming and doesn't understand the details. He would never pass an engineering interview at Google, or any other software company (especially not OpenAI).

How were Allo and Duo not bad ideas, considering Google already had multiple duplicates of those?

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Post by Barrin92 »

xiphias2 wrote: post #4

None of these were bad ideas. Sundar can't execute because he doesn't know how to do programming and doesn't understand the details. He would never pass an engineering interview at Google, or any other software company (especially not OpenAI).

Marissa Mayer could code and I don't think it had a particularly helpful impact on her job as CEO. CEOs do not need to be technical experts, and most highly technical people, at least in my experience, do not excel in management positions and tend to micromanage too much.

Whatever problems Google has, Sundar's technical background has nothing to do with it. Which either way with an engineering and science background and 20 years at the company is in itself more than decent.

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Post by xiphias2 »

riffraff wrote: post #15
xiphias2 wrote: post #4

None of these were bad ideas. Sundar can't execute because he doesn't know how to do programming and doesn't understand the details. He would never pass an engineering interview at Google, or any other software company (especially not OpenAI).

How were Allo and Duo not bad ideas, considering Google already had multiple duplicates of those?

Allo was basically an early (and of course much worse) version of what ChatGPT is now, it was a really cool chat bot, but most of the stuff was dumbed down totally and taken out by legal.

What you saw was not the original project that the engineers were trying to launch.

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Post by mnsc »

retrocryptid wrote: post #2

I like that someone said this, but I really Grit my teeth when someone says "learnings." I have no problem with using preferred pronouns or saying "chestfeeding" instead of "breastfeeding." I don't understand it, but if it's making you uncomfortable, I'm totally fine with changing that part of my vocabulary. But "ask" and "learn" are verbs. You "ask questions" or "make requests" and you "learn lessons." You do not "h…

You don't "learn learnings" I agree but in my mind you _get_ learnings from the process of learning stuff. The same way you get findings from the process of finding stuff out. I'm a Swedish speaker and we have a dedicated word "lärdom" that we use like "learning" so that usage is very natural to me. "lessons learnt" is clunky to me and there we have another saying, "lära sig en läxa" that has the school connotations.
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