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China’s Ambassador to France Says Ex-Soviet States Lack Basis for Sovereignty

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Re: China’s Ambassador to France Says Ex-Soviet States Lack Basis for Sovereignty

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Post by moose_man »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9

I'm seeing a lot of behavior that can only be described as incompetence among China's diplomatic corps. This contrasts with their pre-Xi effectiveness. Anyone know what's going on? (EDIT: A friend pointed me to this [1]. Not a complete explanation. But an obviously brain dead strategy designed for domestic appeasement, not external goals.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_warrior_diplomacy

It's a side of effect of purges and centralization. It changes from a bureaucracy to giant game of telephone where the message is their interpretation of what Xi wants.

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Post by barelysapient »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9

I'm seeing a lot of behavior that can only be described as incompetence among China's diplomatic corps. This contrasts with their pre-Xi effectiveness. Anyone know what's going on? (EDIT: A friend pointed me to this [1]. Not a complete explanation. But an obviously brain dead strategy designed for domestic appeasement, not external goals.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_warrior_diplomacy

China is simply normalizing the notion that borders are ephemeral. Who’s entitled to them and where they are should be left to powerful states, like China, to dictate.

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Post by DerekL »

barelysapient wrote: post #12
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9

I'm seeing a lot of behavior that can only be described as incompetence among China's diplomatic corps. This contrasts with their pre-Xi effectiveness. Anyone know what's going on? (EDIT: A friend pointed me to this [1]. Not a complete explanation. But an obviously brain dead strategy designed for domestic appeasement, not external goals.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_warrior_diplomacy

China is simply normalizing the notion that borders are ephemeral. Who’s entitled to them and where they are should be left to powerful states, like China, to dictate.

*borders

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Post by refurb »

I'm not saying China = Nazi Germany, but I wonder if statements like this came up during the lead up to WW2?

Did Von Ribbentrop make statements to the media that "the State of Austria lacks a basis for sovereignty" before Germany annexed the country? I imagine something similar?

It often occurs to me to that when you start to put all the pieces together on China the situation is far more serious than most people appreciate.

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Post by ecpottinger »

DerekL wrote: post #16
naveen99 wrote: post #13

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Who knows, but Ukrainians really need to not live under Russian rule, because the Russians will steal their toilets, steal their children, and beat them for speaking their language.

And don't forget the washing machines too. Imagine, an entire nation forced to wear dirty clothes.

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Post by ChumpGPT »

If he is also including Russia in this group then I would guess this might be the basis for China reclaiming lost territory from Russia after it loses the war.

Today the Chinese are buying Natural Gas and Oil from fields that were once Chinese territory. I'm sure this must really hurt their pride, that Russia stole this land from them.

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