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Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by TylerE »

emodendroket wrote: post #10
sufehmi wrote: post #8

Clearly the author still hasn't learned his lesson: his "no more vendor lock" solution is another vendor(s) - which is always able to vendor-lock him, again. It is truly mind blowing on how many people keep falling for one of the oldest trick in IT : vendor lock-in. === No more vendor lock In 2018 Heroku was pretty much the only option for a newbie like me to get started with web-development. The landscape is very di…

So what should he be doing, building his own data center?

Rent a $5/month VPS, install a few packages? Or just run a linux vm locally.

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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emodendroket wrote: post #10
sufehmi wrote: post #8

Clearly the author still hasn't learned his lesson: his "no more vendor lock" solution is another vendor(s) - which is always able to vendor-lock him, again. It is truly mind blowing on how many people keep falling for one of the oldest trick in IT : vendor lock-in. === No more vendor lock In 2018 Heroku was pretty much the only option for a newbie like me to get started with web-development. The landscape is very di…

So what should he be doing, building his own data center?

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Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by badestrand »

zatkin wrote: post #6

If Heroku is running some zombie instance of your app, what if you were to just kill the instance you control and let Heroku run the zombie instance? When your service goes fully down, you'll know they've killed the zombie instance, so you can then run a clean copy.

Not being able to update your code plus your app will completely crash randomly at some point between now and eternity - sounds great!

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by Dylan16807 »

sufehmi wrote: post #8

Clearly the author still hasn't learned his lesson: his "no more vendor lock" solution is another vendor(s) - which is always able to vendor-lock him, again. It is truly mind blowing on how many people keep falling for one of the oldest trick in IT : vendor lock-in. === No more vendor lock In 2018 Heroku was pretty much the only option for a newbie like me to get started with web-development. The landscape is very di…

"always able to vendor-lock him" how?

Moving to another vendor while making it easy to move between vendors doesn't get you locked in.

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by emodendroket »

TylerE wrote: post #11
emodendroket wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what should he be doing, building his own data center?

Rent a $5/month VPS, install a few packages? Or just run a linux vm locally.

So, rely on yet another vendor, or do as I suggested except without any semblance of reliabiliy.

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by oneepic »

badestrand wrote: post #14
zatkin wrote: post #6

If Heroku is running some zombie instance of your app, what if you were to just kill the instance you control and let Heroku run the zombie instance? When your service goes fully down, you'll know they've killed the zombie instance, so you can then run a clean copy.

Not being able to update your code plus your app will completely crash randomly at some point between now and eternity - sounds great!

It's salvageable. Maybe spin up some kind of Unix watch that pings the zombie and deploys the new version. (but then, what happens if you get another zombie... crap)

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #13

I vote for moving to Render! My god I wish I could short Heroku stock.

Looks really expensive. And weird pricing. I click "pricing" and it gives me per user costs. Wat? I thought I was hosting stuff, not managing teams. Click on +Computing costs and it's like $0! $0! $0! Check the fineprint and its like 4GB RAM and 2 CPUs is $85/mo, or you can get the same at DigitalOcean for $24.

Then add Postgres for another $95. Or if you're cheap like me, you self-host that in your $24 droplet and pay nothing extra.

And then they want you to pay for Crons....instead of just running a cronjob on your dedicated compute?

What is this world coming to?

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by TylerE »

emodendroket wrote: post #16
TylerE wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rent a $5/month VPS, install a few packages? Or just run a linux vm locally.

So, rely on yet another vendor, or do as I suggested except without any semblance of reliabiliy.

Some one just starting out is not Google. They do not have Google's problems. They do not need Google's complexity, or a dozen layers of docker/terraform/k8s bullshit.
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