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Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Post by msla »

Being mean is noise: It's something the listener has to cut through to get to the actual message, assuming there is one. The fact the noise is in the form of the listener's emotions doesn't really matter, assuming you want to communicate something to the listener beyond bad feelings.

(And, yes, there are definitely people who only really want to communicate bad feelings. Some people have a firehose of hatred they periodically direct at specific targets. Occasionally, they dress it up in language that sounds superficially reasonable and aligned with mainstream political movements; at that point, we call them "Callout Culture Influencers" and they get weaponized.)

Part of communicating is saying things that can be heard. If someone is so emotional over how you deliver your message they can't process it, you have failed at delivering that message. Wasting your time on making someone else emotional isn't really all that rational, is it?

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Post by jamiek88 »

If humans weren't tribal, social animals and were instead Vulcan then yes the 'truth' probably would be sufficient.

Any information that challenges our deeply held beliefs can trigger a physical fight or flight adrenaline dump.

Even when gently, thoughtfully delivered.

Actual everyday scams its often impossible convince a person they are being scammed even as they are cashing in their savings to buy itunes giftcards for the IRS.

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

paulpauper wrote: post #2

Bill Gates was known to be blunt with his feedback. He still is. But I can see his justification for it. He is knowledgeable and MSFT is a huge company, so directness is needed.

Bill Gates was attempting to run a for-profit business in a domain that he was an expert in.

Most people who are blunt tend to use their rudeness to hide their inability to grasp the full context of the arguments being made.

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Post by saalweachter »

sublinear wrote: post #8

> It reminds me of the bumper stickers on trucks saying that vehicles must stay back at least 200 feet because the driver is not responsible for damage done to other vehicles by falling rocks. It's nonsense of course. No, it isn't nonsense . Neither are the signs at a mechanic's shop telling you they're not responsible for lost or damaged items. What all these signs have in common is that they signify dangerous work.…

I'd also like to note that a 3-second following distance is 240 feet on the highway.

If you aren't tailgating those gravel trucks, you're already fine.

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Post by cmh89 »

sublinear wrote: post #8

> It reminds me of the bumper stickers on trucks saying that vehicles must stay back at least 200 feet because the driver is not responsible for damage done to other vehicles by falling rocks. It's nonsense of course. No, it isn't nonsense . Neither are the signs at a mechanic's shop telling you they're not responsible for lost or damaged items. What all these signs have in common is that they signify dangerous work.…

>No, it isn't nonsense. Neither are the signs at a mechanic's shop telling you they're not responsible for lost or damaged items.

I'm sure that included in the waiver you sign at the mechanics shop, its included that they are not responsible for lost or damaged items. The extra sign is just to let you know.

The sign on the back of the truck is nonsense because it has no basis in reality. You can't just slap a sticker on your truck and say 'laws don't apply to me'

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Post by wewtyflakes »

sublinear wrote: post #8

> It reminds me of the bumper stickers on trucks saying that vehicles must stay back at least 200 feet because the driver is not responsible for damage done to other vehicles by falling rocks. It's nonsense of course. No, it isn't nonsense . Neither are the signs at a mechanic's shop telling you they're not responsible for lost or damaged items. What all these signs have in common is that they signify dangerous work.…

The nonsense was the lack of liability, not that rocks wont fall off a truck.

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Post by Nathanba »

geraneum wrote: post #4

This reminds me of: “People who are brutally honest get more satisfaction out of the brutality than out of the honesty.” Richard J. Needham

that's usually because only the brutality has any effect so you can't enjoy anything from the honesty when it's applied
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