I have to agree with the rest of the commenters here. You make a blanket statement about something you've obviously never used. You're leveraging hearsay and third party complaints against a framework and language that you don't appear to be overly familiar with.
If you're using Node.js, you're doing life wrong
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Re: If you're using Node.js, you're doing life wrong
#12If you get really angry about the choices other people make for their own work, you're doing life wrong.
if its your company's people choice, and thus that impacts you directly, you're actually doing life right.
Re: If you're using Node.js, you're doing life wrong
#13Wow, this guy seems like a very angry person.
Re: If you're using Node.js, you're doing life wrong
#14From the article:
"The hype around Node.js on this issue makes me want to punch faces."
"But the kind of misunderstanding going on in this video clip seems to pervade the Node.js hype and gives me rageface."
This seems like a really over-the-top response to people that have a differing opinion. I can't take the rest of his post seriously after reading these parts. This certainly isn't the sort of thing you read in an informed opinion piece.
Re: If you're using Node.js, you're doing life wrong
#15The Ruby and Python communities are just now, many years after the hype has faded, learning that stuff like dependency injection and proper modularization are actually good things that help you maintain code over time.
This remark is off the mark. Dependency injection, as in injection by parameters and injection by constructors are so obvious people do it sub-consciously. A fluff word isn't needed for it. As far as IoC containers are concerned, I don't see Ruby/Python communities using it, mainly because half of it is fighting static typing.
And people are learning proper modularization now? Seriously? Python/Ruby has proper namespaces(ruby doesn't have it), modules, classes et al. Like any other languages, Python/Ruby has it's share of programmers who write spaghetti code, and programmers who don't.
Again, if he writes AbstractConnectionDepenencyInjectioManagerAbstractFactory and calls it proper modularization, I am happy Python/Ruby isn't picking it up.
Re: If you're using Node.js, you're doing life wrong
#16> JavaScript has very little support for any of those nice things: it doesn't even have namespaces, for chrissakes. Why would I want to repeat these same mistakes over and over again in a new language?
Javascript doesn't have this (by itself) but node has a very nice require() system that is really excellent for long-term maintainability. When you bump a dependency in a node project that change will only affect the code near it because of how node_modules are resolved to the most local copy. You can bump dependencies without worrying how this will affect other packages.
Plus, require() just returns an object. It doesn't puke a bunch of objects into the current scope. This is massively useful for readability. I've sunk a lot of time on other systems tracking down unqualified exports to figure out which package's documentation to consult.
I've got nothing against scala and am sure it's a useful language but I wonder if the author has even used node.
Re: If you're using Node.js, you're doing life wrong
#17I guess it depends on what I how I want to do my life. If I want to live my life by learning new ideas and using those ideas for something tangible, Node's a pretty good choice. If I want to live my life as a person with a particular language/architectual ideology, then anything that is not in that world view is wrong.
I like node for system level scripting. I find bash annoying and non portable to windows. I really don't want to have to learn batch scripting for dos on windows. But I can use JavaScript with node to script in both environments.
On the server I think that node might be helpful for certain network level tasks. But I haven't used it for much. But honestly what type of person would I be if I don't even consider it? The OP seems to be making an emotional decision rather than a technical one. Interestingly he's using Scala. There are many similar posts about Scala being the wrong way to do life. I just can't agree with any of those views.
Finally I wonder what the value is for these rage posts. They just seem to further divide people. I do see the value in the posts about I've used node for X months, here's my thoughts or here's why I'm going back to X paradigm. But just a rant where faces should be punched seems out of place for HN.
Re: If you're using Node.js, you're doing life wrong
#18What's the problem if someone creates great stuff with it?
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#19I haven't used node.js before, but I see 2 main points being made about it, by proponents and detractors respectively:
* It uses non-blocking evented IO so it can scale well.
* It is single threaded so it can't scale well.
Someone teach me: which of these statements is true?
Re: If you're using Node.js, you're doing life wrong
#20I've got my doubts about Node.js, since it seems like rather a one-trick pony.
But it is a good trick. Node.js deserves credit for calling attention to an underappreciated design pattern that has a lot to offer in certain circumstances. (Personally I think the .NET team hit the nail more squarely on the head with TPL, a pony that can do that trick as well as many others. But .NET doesn't have the sex appeal it takes to be a spokesmodel so meh.)
Javascript isn't my favorite language, or the most performant one. But as a "Lisp with C syntax", on a semantic level it's much better suited to the higher-order programming techniques that the pattern requires than most other popular Web languages are. Ruby also has the right features, but it isn't exactly the poster child for high-performance computing either. Might as well flip a coin, because either way opinionated folks with blood pressure conditions will call you an idiot.