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Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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They are overpriced to the extent that I am discouraged to even buy a MBP now because I would have to baby it so much given the absurd price tag. It would just end up sitting on a desk for its entire life, and at that point I might as well buy a Mac mini.

Buy yourself Apple Care+ for your MBP. No need to baby it.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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The only way I buy new MacBooks now is I try to keep it as long as possible as upgrade only to the oldest and cheapest available model. Last time I bought a m1 Mac air for a bargain price. That’s the only way I’m getting real value. The newest models are simply overpriced. Until they launch something new and discount the current models to a decent price. Same goes for iphones

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Given the state of the PC market it would be shocking if Mac sales were not also affected. >The PC market has experienced its largest decline ever, according to analyst Gartner. Preliminary results by Gartner shows that worldwide PC shipments totalled 65.3 million units in the fourth quarter of 2022, a 28.5% decrease from the fourth quarter of 2021. https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252529126/PC-industry-se...

People forgot that everybody bought computers in order to attend online classes and wfh?

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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M1 generation was so good that it prompted way more users to jump to it; that demand would spread over multiple generations if it was not so good.

On the other hand purposefully gimping M1 would gimp ARM adoption. By delivering great performance, they've build up a lot of goodwill - people willingly port their stuff to macs.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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My M1 MBP is built and still performing so well, it’s going to last at least 3 more years. Unless Apple integrates a new accelerated ML chip next year that’s going to revolutionize the way we’re able to train and interact with small, specialized AI models in macOS.

I’m really curious when we will get there. Especially game consoles, a dedicated chip for running inference could be really fun for developers

I thought Nvidia cards already had some kind of ML hardware for upscaling video games? Which seems them going full circle, since large AI models (except Google TPU code) are usually trained on GPUs, which were originally intended for games.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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They are overpriced to the extent that I am discouraged to even buy a MBP now because I would have to baby it so much given the absurd price tag. It would just end up sitting on a desk for its entire life, and at that point I might as well buy a Mac mini.

Baseline models are relatively affordable but they charge about 5x more for memory and storage than the prices of corresponding PC parts. That's been their trick for decades but it seems like the multiplier has been getting higher lately? $800 + tax for a 2TB SSD is insane.

> seems like the multiplier has been getting higher lately

The SSD now being soldered to the system board has of course ZERO correlation with that price gouging.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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They are overpriced to the extent that I am discouraged to even buy a MBP now because I would have to baby it so much given the absurd price tag. It would just end up sitting on a desk for its entire life, and at that point I might as well buy a Mac mini.

Baseline models are relatively affordable but they charge about 5x more for memory and storage than the prices of corresponding PC parts. That's been their trick for decades but it seems like the multiplier has been getting higher lately? $800 + tax for a 2TB SSD is insane.

I remember buying a Macbook Pro a long time ago (I want to say around 6 years ago? Back in the dark Ive days...) and I can relatively confidently say that it's always been approximately this bad. Inflation plus mental factors are likely the trick that's playing on some folk's mind. They always charged e.g. 200$ for memory increments and 400$/800$ for storage increments, IIRC.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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M1 generation was so good that it prompted way more users to jump to it; that demand would spread over multiple generations if it was not so good. On the other hand purposefully gimping M1 would gimp ARM adoption. By delivering great performance, they've build up a lot of goodwill - people willingly port their stuff to macs.

I'm on an M1 MacBook Pro, and had to check settings to remember it's almost three years old. Zero issues, performs wonderfully, probably going to keep for at least another two.
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