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Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by mherdeg »

Bird and Lime will always have a special place in my heart for inspiring the last silly season political debate before covid in our town.

The very first day rental escooters were legal in town the company hosted demonstration had someone fall off in the town hall parking lot and require hospitalization. It was all so silly and things only went sideways from there. I saved tens of minutes over the course of a summer taking them on one route and I got two free helmets in the mail.

Leafblowers, historic districts, rental scooters... There has to be some focal point for the nervous municipal energy whether or not there's anything to focus it on. Things got deadly serious during the school reopening discussion and they never really went back to the way they were before.

Pour one out for the micromobility startups' dreams and may whatever comes next be as delightfully odd as those things were.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by that_guy_iain »

hackerlight wrote: post #10
FeistySkink wrote: post #3

I hope this becomes EU-wide. Every season it seems like there's a new generation that discovers and abuses them to no end, endangering everybody around.

Cars are far more dangerous, no?

Yea, but we're used to that danger. In fact, we're trained to deal with that danger from being a few years old. E-scooters are a new danger that while far less dangerous is far more annoying because we're not used to it.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by bigbillheck »

hackerlight wrote: post #10
FeistySkink wrote: post #3

I hope this becomes EU-wide. Every season it seems like there's a new generation that discovers and abuses them to no end, endangering everybody around.

Cars are far more dangerous, no?

I'm happy to ban those, at least in city centers.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by twelve40 »

> She said on Sunday that their business model was "very expensive -- five euros for 10 minutes -- it's not very sustainable, and above all, it's the cause of a lot of accidents."

It must be great to have a wise mayor in the government who calls out "expensive business models".

> currently be hired by children as young as 12

When I went there, I read the Lime, Dott, etc rules and they all said 16, some 18+. Where did they get 12 yo from?

It was a great way to get around the city, especially in the dedicated lanes along the Seine. Not sure how it is more dangerous than biking? But, people who actually live in that city apparently hate it, so here we are.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by Raed667 »

hackerlight wrote: post #10
FeistySkink wrote: post #3

I hope this becomes EU-wide. Every season it seems like there's a new generation that discovers and abuses them to no end, endangering everybody around.

Cars are far more dangerous, no?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by pcthrowaway »

publicmenace wrote: post #15

E-Scooters are a public menace. They're way to fast for the sidewalk, dangerous on the road, litter the sidewalks and cause people to trip, and are almost always ridden unsafely, with no safety equipment at all. Get these death traps off the streets.

I think cars are a lot worse, if we just took those off the street there's be no problem with people scooting on the streets

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by elicash »

outside1234 wrote: post #6

These things are just not safe for anyone involved. Good for them.

If there were dedicated lanes and parking specifically for e-scooters, like we do with cars, it'd be pretty safe. I don't favor such a thing (separate lanes and parking individually for motorcycle, for bikes, for ebikes, for skateboards, for unicycles, etc), so my point isn't to advocate for it here, but I do think keeping this in mind changes the way you frame the safety issue.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Post by fsh »

shtopointo wrote: post #2

Excellent vote from the people of Paris! It's too easy to take these things on the sidewalk, go 20mph and disregard the people around you. Those things also weight quite a bit, so getting hit with that may be life altering.

They are electronically limited to 20 km/h in Paris and weigh no more than a bicycle.
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