Dumb question but…why do humans keep using toxic chemicals for cooking and storing food? Surely we can find something edible.
Fresh food logistics are horrible. Did fresh food online for a few years. Makes things almost impossible. The smart companies try to extent the shelf life as long as possible. And make storage easy. Plastic and chemicals are great for those. Put some chemicals in that make your company profitable while the gov deems it safe? A no brainer. Only non chemical alternative is the freezer.
Compostable fast-food packaging can emit volatile PFAS
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#13PFAS in dental floss: https://www.ehn.org/pfas-floss-2658203711.html
Not bashing the conclusion, but I seriously thought it was common knowledge that Oral B glide and equivalent products were PTFE based.
It’s also annoying that people lump PTFE with other PFAS when it is pretty clearly less of an issue (note: not completely trouble free) in most cases.
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#14Just. Stop. Putting. Teflon. On. Everything. Figuring out what does and does not have PFAS on it to protect my family is exhausting and infuriating. I’ve emailed with manufacturers, sent stuff to labs; basically, no one seems to know how much materials like this are used on every day products.
What do you use to store food? I obviously need to go find some alternatives now.
Glass, metal, ceramic, old fashioned plastic. The problem is generally packaging materials not things like Tupperware or glassware.
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#15You know, we really don't need this disposable culture. Everyone just expects to get a disposable container everywhere they go (in the West, anyway). But we don't need disposable everything. People can carry their own set of utensils, and even their own food packaging; it's not uncommon for people to bring their own tupperwares to restaurants (wrap it in a decorative cloth to be fancy). Restaurants could also give out more robust packaging that costs more, or take a deposit to encourage returns. Personally, I keep the stronger plastic chinese take-out containers.
Back in the day, the disposable container was food. You'd get a portable pie (meaning a meat pie, usually) in what was called a "coffin" - basically a bread bowl or pastry shell that was mostly thrown away after you'd eaten the inside of the pie. Summer rolls and spring rolls have their own wrapper. Meat on a stick was pretty common. Rice balls could contain fish or vegetables. Samosas would have vegetable or meat fillings.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you use to store food? I obviously need to go find some alternatives now.
Glass, metal, ceramic, old fashioned plastic. The problem is generally packaging materials not things like Tupperware or glassware.
See this site: https://www.foodpackagingforum.org/fccmigex
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#17PFAS in dental floss: https://www.ehn.org/pfas-floss-2658203711.html
Not bashing the conclusion, but I seriously thought it was common knowledge that Oral B glide and equivalent products were PTFE based. It’s also annoying that people lump PTFE with other PFAS when it is pretty clearly less of an issue (note: not completely trouble free) in most cases.
‘Common’? I suspect a sampling of random people on the street would approximate closer to zero
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#18Just. Stop. Putting. Teflon. On. Everything. Figuring out what does and does not have PFAS on it to protect my family is exhausting and infuriating. I’ve emailed with manufacturers, sent stuff to labs; basically, no one seems to know how much materials like this are used on every day products.
It's not just teflon. It's most likely also going to be it's successors.
Its going to deemed safe for a while till it's not.
Most properties desired while at the same time being cheap and durable will leak and will not play nice and with our cells or hormone system.
Especially because the goal of most of these chemical is to be cheaper the cheap. (Otherwise we would just use glass)
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#19Dumb question but…why do humans keep using toxic chemicals for cooking and storing food? Surely we can find something edible.
Because they're legal. We would still use asbestos and lead if it were not because of the legality question
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#20Just. Stop. Putting. Teflon. On. Everything. Figuring out what does and does not have PFAS on it to protect my family is exhausting and infuriating. I’ve emailed with manufacturers, sent stuff to labs; basically, no one seems to know how much materials like this are used on every day products.
What do you use to store food? I obviously need to go find some alternatives now.
Glass containers are fantastic and usually cheap enough. Whether it's spice jars or leftover food containers, it all works great. Make sure the lids are also either glass, wood, or stainless steel.
The one "downside" is you do need adequate cushion if you're taking it on the go say for lunch or to a dinner gathering, but even a towel wrapped around suffice.
If you want recommendations, the Ikea 365+ glass containers are fantastic and very cheap. Again avoiding the "plastic lid" variant they have for extra measure.