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Humanness in the Age of AI

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Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

#11
ELI5, how does this work?

It claims to both identify humans and be zero knowledge.

What’s to stop me registering a bunch of times then letting my bot use my identities?

The answer is implied to be my iris scan. But then it isn’t zero knowledge for some entity is it? Unless it is relying on the Orb never being hacked?

Any good third party write ups on it? The WorldCoin page is a bit long and doesn’t quickly explain how it works at a basic level.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

#12
post #10

A small fee to use a service will get rid of fake identities and bots. The answer is charging a fair fee. Not scanning iris’ to track that every person only has one account.

In that case you are simply delegating indentity checks to credit cards companies / banks. Earning money independently is definitely within the reach of current AI models.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

#13
post #10

A small fee to use a service will get rid of fake identities and bots. The answer is charging a fair fee. Not scanning iris’ to track that every person only has one account.

> A small fee to use a service will get rid of fake identities and bots.

No, it'll get rid of bots worth less than the account fee to run, except for people who can do payment fraud.

It won't get rid of fake identities because you have to do identity verification for that; otherwise you can impersonate a corporation.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People aren't going to submit themselves to biometric checks just to post stuff on reddit... These social media will probably die when people realize that they are wasting their time answering bots, but these bots will take over soon or later.

Ok what about going to court, submitting evidence - a video of someone committing fraud?

What about that?

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

#16
How does this prevent humans from posting content generated by AI using their own verified identities? This coin doesn't solve the core problem which is telling AI and human generated content apart. I don't care of there is a crypto coin equivalent of a blue tick next to it.

This is just another crypto scam coin.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

#17
From their docs: (https://docs.worldcoin.org/)

In broad strokes, this is how World ID works.

- User gets their World ID in a compatible wallet (e.g. the World App).

- User receives credentials in their World ID. The flagship credential is biometric verification, currently available by using the Orb. The user can also verify their phone number to obtain the respective credential.

- Project integrates with World ID.

- User connects their World ID to authenticate, and optionally prove they are a unique human doing something only once. The user's wallet will generate a Zero-Knowledge Proof to accomplish this.

- Project verifies the Zero-knowledge Proof, either by using the API or by verifying on-chain.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

#18
post #17

From their docs: ( https://docs.worldcoin.org/ ) In broad strokes, this is how World ID works. - User gets their World ID in a compatible wallet (e.g. the World App). - User receives credentials in their World ID. The flagship credential is biometric verification, currently available by using the Orb. The user can also verify their phone number to obtain the respective credential. - Project integrates with World ID.…

Orb seems to be open source hardware https://github.com/worldcoin/orb-hardware

Interestingly: Tamper detection system not disclosed For obvious reasons, these files do not including the PCBs and sensors related to the Orb's tamper detection system.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

#19
post #10

A small fee to use a service will get rid of fake identities and bots. The answer is charging a fair fee. Not scanning iris’ to track that every person only has one account.

This is intended to be a way to fairly distribute UBI, so a fee alone does not work in that case.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

#20
Ah, Worldcoin has set up booths at many shopping malls here in Kenya. The first time I saw them a few months ago I was reminded of the "OneCoin" pyramid scam that was big in East Africa a few years ago. https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/20/crypto_ponzi_scheme_c...

Worldcoin gives off really similar vibes. The footer of their website reads:

> Worldcoin tokens are not intended to be available to people or companies who are residents of, or are located, incorporated or have a registered agent in, the United States or other restricted territories.

That doesn't sound very good! And then there's this critical review of Worldcoin's operations in Indonesia https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi...

I really don't get good vibes from this whole thing...

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