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VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences in the US Under New Restrict Act
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Re: VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences in the US Under New Restrict Act
#12This is wildly hyperbolic as far as I can see. The bill (which I do not endorse) is focused on threats to critical infrastructure and other natsec considerations from designated foreign enemies. Also, it's just been introduced and might not go anywhere.
How to pass horrible bills:
1. Stuff them with truly horrible ideas. 2. Wait for public to scream. 3. Remove half of the horrible ideas (keeping the core crap, like no FOIAs, privacy violations etc.) hidden and spread amongst hundreds of subparagraphs. 4. Present this is as "fair compromise". Convince idiots from both sides of the aisle that this is good for national security. 5. Pass the law. 6. Profit?
Re: VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences in the US Under New Restrict Act
#13Which specific part of the bill allows "VPN users" to be punished with "20 year jail sentences"? Does the bill even ban VPNs? I skimmed the article and the linked tweet and can't find anything to that effect. The closest I can find is this
>This could include VPNs if they are used to access banned websites such as TikTok.
which seems like a standard anti-evasion provision. They're not going after your VPNs, people. While it (edit: might) technically be the case that you could face 20 years in jail if you were using a VPN and you were using it to evade tiktok bans, it's hugely misleading to characterize it as "VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences". It would be like if the government was trying to pass a bill to ban people from smuggling explosives across the border, and that bill being characterized as "Drivers risk 20-year jail sentences under new law", because driving can be used to smuggle explosives and therefore some forms of driving could land you in jail.
Re: VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences in the US Under New Restrict Act
#14Which specific part of the bill allows "VPN users" to be punished with "20 year jail sentences"? Does the bill even ban VPNs? I skimmed the article and the linked tweet and can't find anything to that effect. The closest I can find is this >This could include VPNs if they are used to access banned websites such as TikTok. which seems like a standard anti-evasion provision. They're not going after your VPNs, people. W…
you think it’s reasonable to put someone in jail for 20 years for logging into a social media website?
also: how are they going to determine that you did? what if you have malware on one of your devices and it accesses something banned?
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#15So much concern over TikTok and America's personal data, yet no action from congress when half the nation's personal data is leaked every other week by dozens of other companies. Do they not think China is buying access to all these leaks?
Last time I checked haveibeenpwned my email address had appeared in about 3,000 separate data breaches.
Re: VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences in the US Under New Restrict Act
#16Which specific part of the bill allows "VPN users" to be punished with "20 year jail sentences"? Does the bill even ban VPNs? I skimmed the article and the linked tweet and can't find anything to that effect. The closest I can find is this >This could include VPNs if they are used to access banned websites such as TikTok. which seems like a standard anti-evasion provision. They're not going after your VPNs, people. W…
you think it’s reasonable to put someone in jail for 20 years for logging into a social media website? also: how are they going to determine that you did? what if you have malware on one of your devices and it accesses something banned?
Hahahahahaha tell it to the judge!
Re: VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences in the US Under New Restrict Act
#17Which specific part of the bill allows "VPN users" to be punished with "20 year jail sentences"? Does the bill even ban VPNs? I skimmed the article and the linked tweet and can't find anything to that effect. The closest I can find is this >This could include VPNs if they are used to access banned websites such as TikTok. which seems like a standard anti-evasion provision. They're not going after your VPNs, people. W…
you think it’s reasonable to put someone in jail for 20 years for logging into a social media website? also: how are they going to determine that you did? what if you have malware on one of your devices and it accesses something banned?
Jeez they said nothing of the sort. They were pointing out the bill was not about vpns.
If there was a bill about preventing access to child porn. Including using a vpn. Imagine there was a headline ‘vpn users risk 20 years…’. The point is applicable in that fictional case and this case.
Re: VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences in the US Under New Restrict Act
#18Which specific part of the bill allows "VPN users" to be punished with "20 year jail sentences"? Does the bill even ban VPNs? I skimmed the article and the linked tweet and can't find anything to that effect. The closest I can find is this >This could include VPNs if they are used to access banned websites such as TikTok. which seems like a standard anti-evasion provision. They're not going after your VPNs, people. W…
you think it’s reasonable to put someone in jail for 20 years for logging into a social media website? also: how are they going to determine that you did? what if you have malware on one of your devices and it accesses something banned?
Don’t worry, enforcement will be highly selective.
Re: VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences in the US Under New Restrict Act
#19This is wildly hyperbolic as far as I can see. The bill (which I do not endorse) is focused on threats to critical infrastructure and other natsec considerations from designated foreign enemies. Also, it's just been introduced and might not go anywhere.
How to pass horrible bills: 1. Stuff them with truly horrible ideas. 2. Wait for public to scream. 3. Remove half of the horrible ideas (keeping the core crap, like no FOIAs, privacy violations etc.) hidden and spread amongst hundreds of subparagraphs. 4. Present this is as "fair compromise". Convince idiots from both sides of the aisle that this is good for national security. 5. Pass the law. 6. Profit?
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Re: VPN Users Risk 20-Year Jail Sentences in the US Under New Restrict Act
#20Which specific part of the bill allows "VPN users" to be punished with "20 year jail sentences"? Does the bill even ban VPNs? I skimmed the article and the linked tweet and can't find anything to that effect. The closest I can find is this >This could include VPNs if they are used to access banned websites such as TikTok. which seems like a standard anti-evasion provision. They're not going after your VPNs, people. W…
You can't be prosecuted under S.686 for accessing TikTok, with or without a VPN; the Act deals specifically with financial and contractual relations between foreign entities and US entities. So, sure, you could face up to twenty years if you, say, take knowing and affirmative steps to evade a specific Treasury declaration regarding your business (say, by concealing the fact that the People's Liberation Army has been funding your cybersecurity company, or that you're buying suspiciously-inexpensive 5G radios for your telecom company from Iran), but that's the sort of thing you'd expect to face jail time for regardless.
I'm skeptical about the RESTRICT Act -- treating TikTok as a one-off case rather than putting meaningful federal restrictions around the use of personal data tells you where Congress' mind is here -- but the OP's fearmongering is just ridiculous.