What's this alternative offering exactly?
Corruption? Police state? Crime? Poverty? Yeah, no thanks. Get your shit fixed and then we'll talk.
A new world order? BRICS nations offer alternative to West
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is also why the US is in the manufacturing consent stage of a war with china. China may or may not have aspirations to global imperialism, but the US certainly does . And providing economic alternatives to subservience to american interests is a direct threat to that.
Such a fun term to discredit popular consensus or democratic votes. "Manufactured consent", the rallying cry of failed and unpopular ideologues. But it certainly tracks that the person who coined the term is a genocide denialist for a foreign dictator. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide_denial#Ch...
What was the consent or consensus, when Iraq was attacked for alleged weapons of mass destruction?
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#13The West went bonkers and due to its brainless leaders now it's lost its hegemony! People responsible for some of the worst atrocities in the history of mankind to patronize the rest of the world how to change "for better" using it as a model was a total failure! I am from the Balkans, i.e. much closer to the Western culture, yet I don't like being patronized - and I can imagine how much more distant nations feel abo…
but you get Kentucky Fried Chicken, Enterprise Rent-a-Car and Western Union immediately.. like weeds in the field. Plus, everything is written in Latin script AND the dollar / Euro.
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#14I find it fascinating that people think China and India are friendly (or plan to be friendly) to each other.
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#15I find it fascinating that people think China and India are friendly (or plan to be friendly) to each other.
Or than South Africa is friendly to South Africa. :P
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#16BRICS are only a thing in the mind of the Ivory Tower set.
Brazil is barely a country, has a declining QOL and is remarkably unstable. Lovely people, culture, beaches - but they're not even the best off LatAm country (that's Colombia, Chile, or Argentina)
Russia is a joke and an international pariah
South Africa is about to split in half (or not? who knows!) and is declining into a race-centered downward spiral. Again, horrible to see bad things happen to a lovely group of people, but ESKOM is emblematic of the countries problems.
India and China despise each other and are becoming more, not less hostile. India will soon be larger than China (may be today) and is betting the Chinese Miracle is ending. China has pretty openly racist views about India and doesn't treat them like equals in any way shape or form.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Such a fun term to discredit popular consensus or democratic votes. "Manufactured consent", the rallying cry of failed and unpopular ideologues. But it certainly tracks that the person who coined the term is a genocide denialist for a foreign dictator. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide_denial#Ch...
What was the consent or consensus, when Iraq was attacked for alleged weapons of mass destruction?
That's actually a great example
> A Gallup poll made on behalf of CNN and USA Today concluded that 79% of Americans thought the Iraq War was justified, with or without conclusive evidence of illegal weapons. 19% thought weapons were needed to justify the war
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_in_the_United...
Remember that the popular consensus isn't always the right thing to do. We can nearly always explain this as a product of emotions and groupthink. Why then does our favorite genocide denialist resort to convoluted conspiracy theories?
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#18The West went bonkers and due to its brainless leaders now it's lost its hegemony! People responsible for some of the worst atrocities in the history of mankind to patronize the rest of the world how to change "for better" using it as a model was a total failure! I am from the Balkans, i.e. much closer to the Western culture, yet I don't like being patronized - and I can imagine how much more distant nations feel abo…
but you get Kentucky Fried Chicken, Enterprise Rent-a-Car and Western Union immediately.. like weeds in the field. Plus, everything is written in Latin script AND the dollar / Euro.
KFC is doing much better in BRICS countries than it is on its home turf.
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#19BRICS are only a thing in the mind of the Ivory Tower set. Brazil is barely a country, has a declining QOL and is remarkably unstable. Lovely people, culture, beaches - but they're not even the best off LatAm country (that's Colombia, Chile, or Argentina) Russia is a joke and an international pariah South Africa is about to split in half (or not? who knows!) and is declining into a race-centered downward spiral. Agai…
Not to mention all of them are becoming increasingly authoritarian.
It’s an alternative for sure. Not sure it’s desirable or preferable.
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#20I find it fascinating that people think China and India are friendly (or plan to be friendly) to each other.
Countries are not friendly or hostile to each other. They have different geopolitical goals that sometimes converge and sometimes diverge.
Remember that those countries have highly pragmatic external relations policies and are probably a bit tired of being bossed around by the west.
Notwithstanding the possible merit of the decision, weaponizing the US dollar monetary system against Russia would inevitably have some unintended side effects. One of them is that countries like China, India, Iran, and Saudi Arabia would become interested in strengthening their commercial, monetary, and diplomatic ties.
I can assure you that across the other side of the fence from the western world, every leader started wondering what it would take for their countries to have their foreign reserves seized and have their banks cut off from the western banking system.
We can be certain that Saudi leaders absolutely despise the Americans and that this feeling is reciprocal. Yet, Saudi Arabia has been a strategic partner of the USA for decades because their particular interests aligned in many things.
If their common interests align, you can be sure that China and India will find common ground for agreement.