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The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic societies

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Re: The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic societies

#11
If I lived in the EU I'd want to know who are proposing this kind of stuff and help with anything that gets them far from public and government -related jobs forever, but hey, that's me. Lots of people like to give up a bit of freedom and privacy in exchange for an increased sense of security.

Re: The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic societies

#13
I happen to be reading 1984 for the first time right now - that book was published in 1949, and gee did Orwell have the EU scoped out - even though he kind of missed by a couple of decades. There's so many real life parallels that I'm getting the chills.

Re: The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic societies

#14
post #7

Why every 12 months the European Commission comes up with a total dumb and authoritarian proposal and we have to actively fight it? It’s just tiring

Because European people keep voting for their local parties that nominate these commissioners. Your complaint is ultimately with European voters for voting "wrong".

Re: The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic societies

#15

If I lived in the EU I'd want to know who are proposing this kind of stuff and help with anything that gets them far from public and government -related jobs forever, but hey, that's me. Lots of people like to give up a bit of freedom and privacy in exchange for an increased sense of security.

It is EU commissioner Ylva Johansson. Unfortunately, there is not much you can do. She is not elected to this position, but appointed, and in this case by a former government who is no longer in power.

Re: The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic societies

#16
post #12
post #7

Why every 12 months the European Commission comes up with a total dumb and authoritarian proposal and we have to actively fight it? It’s just tiring

We have to win every time, but they have to win only once.

This is only true if you give up once it passes. Then you only have to win once to get it repealed.

Re: The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic societies

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post #7

Why every 12 months the European Commission comes up with a total dumb and authoritarian proposal and we have to actively fight it? It’s just tiring

Because any government's primary objective is to secure the power of the government, and most governments including western "democratic" ones view their people as the biggest threat to that objective. Which they are right about, mind you.
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