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Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Post by dopeboy »

What this reinforces is that unlike with previous big innovations (cloud, iphone, etc), incumbents will not sit on their laurels with the AI wave. They are aggressively integrating it into their products which (1) provides a relatively cheap step function upgrade and (2) keeps the barrier high for startups to use AI as their wedge.

I attribute the speed at which incumbents are integrating AI into their products to a couple things:

* Whereas AI was a hand-wavey marketing term in the past, it's now the real deal and provides actual value to the end user.

* The technology and DX with integrating w/products from OpenAPI, SD, is good.

* AI and LLMs are capturing a lot of attention right now (as seen easily by how often they pop up on HN these days). It's in the zeigeist so you get a marketing boost for free.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Post by rcarmo »

DizzyDoo wrote: post #10

How is this 'Firefly Model' trained and sourced? Will it be on the contents of the stock.adobe.com library? Clicking through the available pages it seems like a lot of 'coming soon' talk, so there's not really any detail about any of the underlying process.

all you've asked is in the FAQ, right at the top.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Post by joelfried »

rcarmo wrote: post #4

Obviously requires an Adobe account, which hints at it being folded into their subscription pricing. I wonder if this is a customer retention move given the number of third-party plugins to use Dall-E, SD, Midjourney, etc. with Photoshop. (I also wonder who is powering this or if it's an in-house solution -- that should be telling...) Edit: Why, they've trained this on Adobe stock images. OK, this may be very interes…

Their blog about their methodology[1] implies to me it's an in-house solution. They also talk at length about maintaining provenance, ethics, and transparency. I found it a much more informative read than the product announcement.

[1] https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2023/03/21/responsible-inn...

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Post by jonifico »

IMHO,it was only a matter of time before the big names started to include AI generations on their software. I'm guessing if most of the AI design tools that are being launched everyday and which relies mostly in consuming a public api could be easily absorbed?

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Post by l33tman »

motoxpro wrote: post #8

Interesting that the large company AI products (this, Microsoft copilot, etc) are so much more compelling than any of the startups I’ve seen. Makes me think that we haven’t seen what true innovation looks like in this space. Right now, AI is a feature, not a product. Edit: Not talking about the models themselves (stability, mid journey, GPT-x), talking about what is built on those models.

I would consider both Stable Diffusion and MidJourney to be startups and both are better by far than the established companies like OpenAI, and there are dozens of LLMs soon catching up with GPT3/4. As you say, it will be a very interesting next 6-12 months..

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Post by timdiggerm »

DizzyDoo wrote: post #10

How is this 'Firefly Model' trained and sourced? Will it be on the contents of the stock.adobe.com library? Clicking through the available pages it seems like a lot of 'coming soon' talk, so there's not really any detail about any of the underlying process.

> The current Firefly generative AI model is trained on a dataset of Adobe Stock, along with openly licensed work and public domain content where copyright has expired.

https://www.adobe.com/sensei/generative-ai/firefly.html#faqs

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Post by sourcecodeplz »

rcarmo wrote: post #4

Obviously requires an Adobe account, which hints at it being folded into their subscription pricing. I wonder if this is a customer retention move given the number of third-party plugins to use Dall-E, SD, Midjourney, etc. with Photoshop. (I also wonder who is powering this or if it's an in-house solution -- that should be telling...) Edit: Why, they've trained this on Adobe stock images. OK, this may be very interes…

Actually, when signing up for the waitlist, they don't ask for your Adobe account.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Post by m_ke »

DizzyDoo wrote: post #10

How is this 'Firefly Model' trained and sourced? Will it be on the contents of the stock.adobe.com library? Clicking through the available pages it seems like a lot of 'coming soon' talk, so there's not really any detail about any of the underlying process.

I'm sure it's all of their content plus half of the web. The proprietary data they get from Behance, Lightroom, Photoshop and Illustrator (and soon figma) has to be a great advantage for them though.
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