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The genie escapes: Stanford copies the ChatGPT AI for less than $600

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Re: The genie escapes: Stanford copies the ChatGPT AI for less than $600

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post #9

From the article: Pre-trained on a trillion "tokens"... Doesn't 7B indicates that it was trained on 7 billion tokens? Or am I misunderstanding the nomenclature?

The emerging consensus for larger LLM is you want to train them with at least 2-4x the tokens of the number of parameters (weights between neurons in the layers). A trillion (100x) surprises me.

Re: The genie escapes: Stanford copies the ChatGPT AI for less than $600

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This is why it's not possible to slow down or "stop" AI: once the problems are solved the solutions turn out to be trivial to replicate. All it takes is compute.

you say all it takes compute like that is trivial - chatGPT would have a hard time without Microsoft's support via Azure

Re: The genie escapes: Stanford copies the ChatGPT AI for less than $600

#14

This is why it's not possible to slow down or "stop" AI: once the problems are solved the solutions turn out to be trivial to replicate. All it takes is compute.

Governments have experience limiting the spread of digital content. For now at least, AI proliferation is not immune to those same tactics.

Re: The genie escapes: Stanford copies the ChatGPT AI for less than $600

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post #9

From the article: Pre-trained on a trillion "tokens"... Doesn't 7B indicates that it was trained on 7 billion tokens? Or am I misunderstanding the nomenclature?

> Doesn't 7B indicates that it was trained on 7 billion tokens?

No, 7B means it has 7 billion parameters.

Re: The genie escapes: Stanford copies the ChatGPT AI for less than $600

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Code can be abstracted into a simpler code model and deterministically recreate the old code model.

OpenAI is an eventually to be obsoleted initial brute force approach that will be abstracted over and over into a simpler code implementation with rules to recreate the old state.

kkrieger is a simple example of a tiny data model that can be deterministically rehydrated. It’s not unrealistic for AI models to become a seed value for a normalized code base to deterministically unpack into necessary electron state

Re: The genie escapes: Stanford copies the ChatGPT AI for less than $600

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post #8

Hardly. I've played a lot with the 7,13, and 30B llamas as well as the 7 and 13B alpacas fine tuned by Stanford. They do not have emergent abilities like being able to generate rhymes or, say, represent a movie plot as emoji. Even openai's old text-davinci-003 (gpt3.5, but text completion, not the chat ones) far outperforms them. That said, I have hopes for a 65B 3-bit quantized alpaca-fine tuned. We'll see when some…

Where does one find the 13B alpaca model?

Re: The genie escapes: Stanford copies the ChatGPT AI for less than $600

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post #14

This is why it's not possible to slow down or "stop" AI: once the problems are solved the solutions turn out to be trivial to replicate. All it takes is compute.

Governments have experience limiting the spread of digital content. For now at least, AI proliferation is not immune to those same tactics.

Governments are really bad at limiting the spread of digital content.

Re: The genie escapes: Stanford copies the ChatGPT AI for less than $600

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post #8

Hardly. I've played a lot with the 7,13, and 30B llamas as well as the 7 and 13B alpacas fine tuned by Stanford. They do not have emergent abilities like being able to generate rhymes or, say, represent a movie plot as emoji. Even openai's old text-davinci-003 (gpt3.5, but text completion, not the chat ones) far outperforms them. That said, I have hopes for a 65B 3-bit quantized alpaca-fine tuned. We'll see when some…

In my personal testing, I throw some sophisticated use cases at LLMs - particularly chain of thought reasoning. None of the models out there are able to do this this well, except for the OG GPT-3 Davinci-003. Even the newer turbo models are not as good.

I am playing around with GPT-4 this week though. Let’s see how that goes.

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