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Uber, Lyft drivers at SFO doing lots of waiting, less driving

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Re: Uber, Lyft drivers at SFO doing lots of waiting, less driving

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Post by dahdum »

barbazoo wrote: post #10
dahdum wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same experience mid December in the evening, with a ~$110 fare. I’m happy to wait if the alternative is taking a taxi though. I’ve gotten way too tired of the “machine isn’t working” schtick.

Out of curiosity, why don't people ask if the machine is working when they get in if that's such a common scam?

They just lie when you arrive at the destination anyway, and you can’t easily decline from a taxi stand and take the #2 driver instead.

If you are skeptical these scams happen, there are many reported examples. Here’s a doozy:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/sf-taxi-credit-c...

Re: Uber, Lyft drivers at SFO doing lots of waiting, less driving

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Post by grecy »

dahdum wrote: post #11
barbazoo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, why don't people ask if the machine is working when they get in if that's such a common scam?

They just lie when you arrive at the destination anyway, and you can’t easily decline from a taxi stand and take the #2 driver instead. If you are skeptical these scams happen, there are many reported examples. Here’s a doozy: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/sf-taxi-credit-c...

What is the reason for, or outcome of this scam?

(Genuine question)

Re: Uber, Lyft drivers at SFO doing lots of waiting, less driving

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Post by barbazoo »

grecy wrote: post #12
dahdum wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just lie when you arrive at the destination anyway, and you can’t easily decline from a taxi stand and take the #2 driver instead. If you are skeptical these scams happen, there are many reported examples. Here’s a doozy: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/sf-taxi-credit-c...

What is the reason for, or outcome of this scam? (Genuine question)

I suspect it's to avoid paying taxes one way or another. Either the driver or the company.

Re: Uber, Lyft drivers at SFO doing lots of waiting, less driving

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Post by barbazoo »

dahdum wrote: post #11
barbazoo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, why don't people ask if the machine is working when they get in if that's such a common scam?

They just lie when you arrive at the destination anyway, and you can’t easily decline from a taxi stand and take the #2 driver instead. If you are skeptical these scams happen, there are many reported examples. Here’s a doozy: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/sf-taxi-credit-c...

This sucks, totally. And also a lesson not to give your card out. Something doesn't sound right though. If the mag stripe was used, they'd need a signature right? If the chip was used, in my experience, you need to enter the pin. If tap was used the amount would have been too big in my experience. How were these charges authorized?

Re: Uber, Lyft drivers at SFO doing lots of waiting, less driving

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Post by dahdum »

grecy wrote: post #12
dahdum wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just lie when you arrive at the destination anyway, and you can’t easily decline from a taxi stand and take the #2 driver instead. If you are skeptical these scams happen, there are many reported examples. Here’s a doozy: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/sf-taxi-credit-c...

What is the reason for, or outcome of this scam? (Genuine question)

First, they'll never have any change when they do this hoping to force you to overpay. Second, they can charge you for the ATM trip and the wait time (and then you have $20 bills, so forced to overpay). Third, if the machine "failed to run it", they can charge the card and pocket the cash.

The article was about some just charging whatever they felt like, but in those cases got too greedy. Since many won't notice, it's hard to dispute, and the DA isn't going to charge them, they can keep doing over and over. Especially with foreigner tourists.

Re: Uber, Lyft drivers at SFO doing lots of waiting, less driving

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Post by cute_boi »

barbazoo wrote: post #14
dahdum wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just lie when you arrive at the destination anyway, and you can’t easily decline from a taxi stand and take the #2 driver instead. If you are skeptical these scams happen, there are many reported examples. Here’s a doozy: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/sf-taxi-credit-c...

This sucks, totally. And also a lesson not to give your card out. Something doesn't sound right though. If the mag stripe was used, they'd need a signature right? If the chip was used, in my experience, you need to enter the pin. If tap was used the amount would have been too big in my experience. How were these charges authorized?

pin is not required for credit card. It may be required for debit card. Also, nobody use mag stripe cards.

Re: Uber, Lyft drivers at SFO doing lots of waiting, less driving

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Post by barbazoo »

cute_boi wrote: post #16
barbazoo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sucks, totally. And also a lesson not to give your card out. Something doesn't sound right though. If the mag stripe was used, they'd need a signature right? If the chip was used, in my experience, you need to enter the pin. If tap was used the amount would have been too big in my experience. How were these charges authorized?

pin is not required for credit card. It may be required for debit card. Also, nobody use mag stripe cards.

That sucks. Where I am in Canada I've never seen PIN-less payment via chip. It's either chip+PIN or tap.
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