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Re: Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata Announces Online Gaming Network

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Post by Raphael »

chaostheory wrote: post #2

They are really late to the game. Apple, Google, and Amazon are still on a trajectory to eating Nintendo's lunch completely. Until Nintendo announces specifics for developers as well as the percentage take they'll get, it's hard to get excited. I'd be really surprised if they even allow indy devs in like the App Stores, and also if they don't charge 4-10k per dev kit.

Sony, Microsoft, and Valve have gaming networks. Apple has a new one. Google and Amazon don't really have one yet, but they do sell games.

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Post by evo_9 »

Is it simply hubris that makes a Japanese company like Nintendo think they cannot release their IP's on other platforms? Look at Sega, they were almost done before they stopped developing expensive hardware to ultimately released their games on all platforms. Nintendo's stash of IP's far exceeds Sega's and everyone elses except Disney.

Nintendo should be raking in cash from all directions at this point, their strategy makes absolutely no sense.

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Post by peterb »

chaostheory wrote: post #2

They are really late to the game. Apple, Google, and Amazon are still on a trajectory to eating Nintendo's lunch completely. Until Nintendo announces specifics for developers as well as the percentage take they'll get, it's hard to get excited. I'd be really surprised if they even allow indy devs in like the App Stores, and also if they don't charge 4-10k per dev kit.

Nintendo already support Indy games in WiiWare. My boys 7 & 10 love their 3DSs & Wii and rarely use the the iPod touch or XBox. Nintendo is after a younger market. There is lots of room for them. They have been pronounced "nearly dead" many times.

Re: Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata Announces Online Gaming Network

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Post by 83457 »

evo_9 wrote: post #12

Is it simply hubris that makes a Japanese company like Nintendo think they cannot release their IP's on other platforms? Look at Sega, they were almost done before they stopped developing expensive hardware to ultimately released their games on all platforms. Nintendo's stash of IP's far exceeds Sega's and everyone elses except Disney. Nintendo should be raking in cash from all directions at this point, their strateg…

Is it simply hubris that makes a Japanese company like Nintendo think they cannot release their IP's on other platforms?

No

Re: Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata Announces Online Gaming Network

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Post by chaostheory »

peterb wrote: post #13
chaostheory wrote: post #2

They are really late to the game. Apple, Google, and Amazon are still on a trajectory to eating Nintendo's lunch completely. Until Nintendo announces specifics for developers as well as the percentage take they'll get, it's hard to get excited. I'd be really surprised if they even allow indy devs in like the App Stores, and also if they don't charge 4-10k per dev kit.

Nintendo already support Indy games in WiiWare. My boys 7 & 10 love their 3DSs & Wii and rarely use the the iPod touch or XBox. Nintendo is after a younger market. There is lots of room for them. They have been pronounced "nearly dead" many times.

I don't feel that they'll ever die either. It'll just be another Gamecube period that they're entering.

Their indy catalog pales in comparison to their competitor's catalogs. Not to mention the pricing sucks in general

Re: Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata Announces Online Gaming Network

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Post by Tiktaalik »

evo_9 wrote: post #12

Is it simply hubris that makes a Japanese company like Nintendo think they cannot release their IP's on other platforms? Look at Sega, they were almost done before they stopped developing expensive hardware to ultimately released their games on all platforms. Nintendo's stash of IP's far exceeds Sega's and everyone elses except Disney. Nintendo should be raking in cash from all directions at this point, their strateg…

These last two quarters are the only ones in Nintendo's long history in which they haven't made a profit. Nintendo does rake in cash from all directions. They're a very successful company and they have an excellent business model.

Sega going 3rd party was their only option other then to go bankrupt. The situation is not comparable.

Re: Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata Announces Online Gaming Network

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Post by freehunter »

evo_9 wrote: post #12

Is it simply hubris that makes a Japanese company like Nintendo think they cannot release their IP's on other platforms? Look at Sega, they were almost done before they stopped developing expensive hardware to ultimately released their games on all platforms. Nintendo's stash of IP's far exceeds Sega's and everyone elses except Disney. Nintendo should be raking in cash from all directions at this point, their strateg…

Why are you of the belief that Nintendo needs to bow out of the hardware business? I could see this line of thinking in... 2004? But in the last 5 years Nintendo has seen wildly uncontrolled profits rolling in from the DS and Wii. The 3DS is beginning to pick up now too, after a slow launch.

Nintendo has a viable, innovative product in the gaming industry. They make games for their platform because their platform is unique and their games take advantage of that. Because of this, they are raking in cash from all directions.

Re: Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata Announces Online Gaming Network

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Post by freehunter »

Alcedes wrote: post #4

Talk about too little too late. 90% of my gaming is on iOS, with the remaining 10% reserved for blockbusters on 360 or ps3. Nintendo is the next RIMM in terms of company direction. The Wii U will officially usher in the next "Gamecube" era. Sad times for Mario fans.

Yup, your iOS gaming really hurt the sales of the Wii, a product that is only slowing down in sales because everyone owns one already.

Re: Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata Announces Online Gaming Network

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Post by ConstantineXVI »

chaostheory wrote: post #15
peterb wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nintendo already support Indy games in WiiWare. My boys 7 & 10 love their 3DSs & Wii and rarely use the the iPod touch or XBox. Nintendo is after a younger market. There is lots of room for them. They have been pronounced "nearly dead" many times.

I don't feel that they'll ever die either. It'll just be another Gamecube period that they're entering. Their indy catalog pales in comparison to their competitor's catalogs. Not to mention the pricing sucks in general

More accurate would be comparing to the N64. The [N64|3DS] came out using overpriced, relatively low storage cartridges when [Sony/Sega|Apple/Amazon] moved to [CD-ROM|cloud!] which is cheaper, more powerful, and allowed for easier distribution; as well as their competitors being easier to write for.

Re: Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata Announces Online Gaming Network

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Post by betterth »

freehunter wrote: post #17
evo_9 wrote: post #12

Is it simply hubris that makes a Japanese company like Nintendo think they cannot release their IP's on other platforms? Look at Sega, they were almost done before they stopped developing expensive hardware to ultimately released their games on all platforms. Nintendo's stash of IP's far exceeds Sega's and everyone elses except Disney. Nintendo should be raking in cash from all directions at this point, their strateg…

Why are you of the belief that Nintendo needs to bow out of the hardware business? I could see this line of thinking in... 2004? But in the last 5 years Nintendo has seen wildly uncontrolled profits rolling in from the DS and Wii. The 3DS is beginning to pick up now too, after a slow launch. Nintendo has a viable, innovative product in the gaming industry. They make games for their platform because their platform is…

    Why are you of the belief that Nintendo needs to bow out of the hardware business?
Because 2011 was incredibly rough on Nintendo -- they lost $500 million last year. Even Nintendo says that Apple and Facebook (iOS and Facebook games) are a huge reason for this first-in-a-generation-loss, and let's face it, they're doing jack shit to accommodate a changing industry.

What has Nintendo done for a long time? A console, a handheld, fill it full of first party games.

So, even though they fully admit that these huge losses are because of an industry that is fundamentally changing, what is their strategy?

A console*, a handheld and fill them full of first party titles.

Oh, except this time, the console will have a controller that sports a huge touchscreen, so clearly they're taking on iOS (this is sarcasm).

    >Because of this, they are raking in cash from all directions.
Yeah, that massive loss of -$500,000,000 they raked in last year must be soothing investor worries...
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