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Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by Avicebron »

AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

I think that part of what limits what creators can do on twitch comes down to what the advertisers are willing to put up with, it's likely more that advertisers are leaning on twitch who are then leaning on creators, vs just twitch leaning on creators.

As for kick, they seem to be actively ignoring/rejecting these limitations (potentially because they at least partly externally funded by stake (online gambling platform) and kick was a response to most gambling being banned on twitch). I'm not sure how long they can maintain this if they want to stay profitable/attract people to their platform.

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Post by wlesieutre »

AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

Isn't youtube also incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators?

For example, making up new rules about swearing too close to the intro of videos being grounds for demonetization, and retroactively applying it to everyone's back catalog from before the rule existed?

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Post by duxup »

AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

Is ANY platform in a position to treat creators well?

I hear nothing but complaints from everywhere. I wonder if it is possible to treat creators well…?

Are creators even worth much on average considering the volume of people willing to just grind out content continuously without much regard to … themselves?

It seems to be an endless search for more subscribers, more views, more patrons of some type, more questionable sponsors.

The the youtube, twitch, etc video creators ecosystem seems perpetually messed up, and creators seem to keep at it, sometimes seem to be flogging themselves.

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Post by waboremo »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

What has Twitch actually done new business-wise in the past 5-6 years? Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 would be the future of Twitch, and Twitch did allow some developer tools for interactivity between players…

Guaranteed ads, amazon affiliate links in bio, integrate amazon luna more, and change revenue splits.

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Post by cinntaile »

jeron wrote: post #10
jazzyjackson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moving all the thirst traps to a "hot tubs" channel was pretty innovative. https://www.pcgamer.com/twitch-addresses-hot-tub-streaming-c...

real innovation would have been to spin it off as a separate streaming website that allows paywalled subscription and creating an OF competitor

Amazon doesn't want to get into the adult industry.

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Post by weego »

waboremo wrote: post #14
minimaxir wrote: post #2

What has Twitch actually done new business-wise in the past 5-6 years? Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 would be the future of Twitch, and Twitch did allow some developer tools for interactivity between players…

Guaranteed ads, amazon affiliate links in bio, integrate amazon luna more, and change revenue splits.

The guaranteed 30 second as on stream load was the final straw for me. I used to wander around the music streamers channel but ended up with as much as time viewed as the actual streams.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by dmonitor »

AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

From what I've heard from big streamers (Ludwig Ahgren and his gang specifically), he was incredibly out of touch with Twitch culture. Basically zero awareness of what was happening on his platform.
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