Intriguing, if it's implemented well. Lack of conversation practice is probably the biggest hole in most language learning systems and what keeps language knowledge from being applicable.
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To be fair, Super Duolingo is pretty good. Dropping the Ads alone is totally worth the subscription if you're a daily user (it's the only app I use daily aside from Messages, Email etc). I'm very curious about Max though ... the explain your answer is something I'm really interested in to help me understand the sentences I'm constructing (which is where I make most of my blunders!).
I also use it daily but I'm a bit worried I won't concentrate as much if I have unlimited hearts, have you noticed any decline in recall? But yes, the ads are super annoying... especially the same one to upgrade Duolingo puts in every time!
I haven't, but I got sick of the ads pretty quickly and have been signed up for super for most of my ~10 month streak.
I try to spend 10-20 mins a day on it (learning Spanish) and actually do a lot of the "review" lessons which are good at drilling words. I am often surprised by my recall at phrases that I haven't seen in a while -- pretty sure they use the spaced repetition type algorithms.
My challenges now aren't so much on vocab/recall, but on verb conjugation and sentence construction / structure. I kind of know what to say but have trouble putting it together.
What I need to do is practice more actually speaking Spanish and interacting with Spanish speakers -- I had planned to spend a few months living somewhere in Hispanic America, but the 3 day-a-week RTO at my job has trashed that. I'll probably just have to settle for Skype-based chats/lessons.
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#13This seems like a smart move in general, for Duolingo and a not-evil use of language models.
Some would argue the Duolingo owl is an evil creation, now with enhanced powers.
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#14Just take a look at how poorly the bot does for Spanish: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35155577
Irresponsible to give this to learners
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#15It's a wise move. It's better to embrace it rather than get replaced.
But I'd wait for it to become more powerful by including the whisper model or the similar.
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I also use it daily but I'm a bit worried I won't concentrate as much if I have unlimited hearts, have you noticed any decline in recall? But yes, the ads are super annoying... especially the same one to upgrade Duolingo puts in every time!
I haven't even noticed ads using uBO.
They're a lot more intrusive on the mobile app
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#20This is interesting because my impression is that LLMs perform poorly on non-english languages[1]. This is likely 'just' a corpus size problem - but it's not like that is going to be fixed any time soon. That said, at least in language instruction there's a lot of meta material that will be helpful. I wonder how Duolingo is detecting when GPT-4 is hallucinating.
[1] https://twitter.com/asmelashteka/status/1630966233217605632