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4.5%, and the Demographics of American Murder

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Re: 4.5%, and the Demographics of American Murder

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nhchris wrote: post #9
rhaway84773 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure if this is sarcastic, but yeah, gun control has worked so well for the UK that what they are worrying about are the 250 or so people killed a year by knives and other sharp objects, like broken bottles. Adjusted to the U.S. population that’s about 1500 deaths per year as opposed to around the 50,000 gun deaths the US sees in a year.

US homicide rate: 6.5, Black population: 12.1%, homicide rate/Black %: 0.54 UK homicide rate: 1.1, Black population: 3.15%, homicide rate/Black %: 0.35 (0.65x that of the US) So gun control seems to have helped, but not as much as 1500 vs 50,000. It would be interesting to see the homicide rate for UK Blacks specifically, but I could only find data about homicide victims by race, not perpetrators. Sources: https://en…

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Re: 4.5%, and the Demographics of American Murder

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Post by bitshiftfaced »

rhaway84773 wrote: post #5
h2odragon wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK is onto "knife and caustic substances control," as gun control worked so well for them.

I’m not sure if this is sarcastic, but yeah, gun control has worked so well for the UK that what they are worrying about are the 250 or so people killed a year by knives and other sharp objects, like broken bottles. Adjusted to the U.S. population that’s about 1500 deaths per year as opposed to around the 50,000 gun deaths the US sees in a year.

From 1995 to 2018, the US homicide rate went from 8.15 to 5.01. During the same time span, the rate in the UK dropped from 1.55 to 1.12.

The rate dropped 38% in the US and 27% in the UK, which banned handguns in 1996.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murd...

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/mur...

*I would've used the most recent US number (2020), but I couldn't find that data for the UK to compare apples to apples.

Re: 4.5%, and the Demographics of American Murder

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Post by quickthrower2 »

showdeddd wrote: post #7
quickthrower2 wrote: post #2

> Removing criminals from society is the obvious solution, because it obviously work Looks at other countries. No. Remove the damn guns!

Absolutely not, the 2nd amendment prohibits it.

New amendments are possible

Re: 4.5%, and the Demographics of American Murder

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Post by quickthrower2 »

bitshiftfaced wrote: post #12
rhaway84773 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure if this is sarcastic, but yeah, gun control has worked so well for the UK that what they are worrying about are the 250 or so people killed a year by knives and other sharp objects, like broken bottles. Adjusted to the U.S. population that’s about 1500 deaths per year as opposed to around the 50,000 gun deaths the US sees in a year.

From 1995 to 2018, the US homicide rate went from 8.15 to 5.01. During the same time span, the rate in the UK dropped from 1.55 to 1.12. The rate dropped 38% in the US and 27% in the UK, which banned handguns in 1996. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murd... https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/mur... *I would've used the most recent US number (2020), but I couldn't find tha…

UK doesn’t have second amendment though. Probably UK had controls before 1996? Put it this way I never feared guns in 1996 at all. Bombs were more of a concern. It can’t have been comparable to the US?

Re: 4.5%, and the Demographics of American Murder

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Post by hackrnusr »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #2

> Removing criminals from society is the obvious solution, because it obviously work Looks at other countries. No. Remove the damn guns!

You know what's a better idea than removing all the "damn" guns?

Mandatory life sentences for everyone who uses them to murder someone else.

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